Did Hip Hop get better or worse once NY lost it?

[LOOPY]

*I don't know seems like everything advanced when it hit down south

*The beats, The music, The Club/Party life,The money,The reach,The influence,The culture


*Hip Hop went global the past decade and that is the form of hip hop that based from the south.

*I can't see a lyrically dense less musically sound east coast version of hip hop having that same reach.

*Peep hip hop always peak when the center is outside NY


*90s LA , 2010s ATL >

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[frush11]

But the biggest global artist are mainly the lyrically dense artists

 

[Sad Bunny]

Better because Lil Wayne Drake Nicki Minaj Future and Kendrick Lamar

 

[Buckeye Fever]

To me, the issue wasn't NY "losing it". I had no issues with the south being in the forefront.

But as someone that is a huge fan of the "NY sound" lyrically and beats, I hated when they gravitated away from that

 

[Wild self]

Going from monumental albums being dropped several times a year to ADD digital songs that get played out in a week.

 

[OneDeep]

It didn’t get worse because NY lost it

It’s got worse because everyone started to sound the same

Sound, Slang, Style

Nothing is regional now

 

[KFBF]

Better in the short term worse in the long term.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Whoever said Hip Hop is better now

Name me just one album from the 2000s that you consider to be in the category of

Illmatic
36 Chambers
The Infamous
Midnight Marauders
The Score

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Worse, but it was NY's fault by way of Diddy, since he was responsible for the demise of the art form by forcing everyone to dumb down their lyrics and adopt pop samples in order to sell major units.

Example, Nas on IWW had more radio friendly samples in order to sell records like BIG (Nas' own words too), BUT the lyrical content was still there.

Jay on RD had less grimey type of samples that would be friendlier to a crossover audience. BUT his lyrical content was there too.

Once BIG died, and puff was the biggest in the game, he made everything poppy af, AND the lyrical content suffered too.

Next thing you know, Jay-Z is dumbing down his lyrical content on Vol 2, and chasing puff type beats on Vol 1. and as the biggest star, the most of NY followed suit opening the door for the South to bring in a different sound since pop shyt always gets old fast.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Whoever said Hip Hop is better now

Name me just one album from the 2000s that you consider to be in the category of

Illmatic
36 Chambers
The Infamous
Midnight Marauders
The Score

There are none. Someone could maybe make an arguement for some Kanye or Kendrick but those albums still don’t compare to classics that are PILLARS of the genre.

Only thing that comes close is 2001 (that's still 1999) and Supreme Clientele (and that's NYC)

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It got more realistic, IMO.

Again, I think people underestimate the car-culture outside of NYC such that “headphone” music doesn’t resonate the same way as it does in the ways most people outside of NYC listen to music

 

[MajesticLion]

Nobody worthwhile will ever have it to "lose" until they own and control it.

 

[maxamusa]

aint you from the D? why you got the souths balls on your chin OP?

 

[Stick Up Kid]

The first time they lost it to L.A. it was still great... (Pac, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Cube, Quik, MC Eiht, E-40, Too Short, Dre etc)

Then they recaptured it with Hov, DMX, Nas, Dipset,50 etc in the early 2000s...

When they lost it after that, that's when hip hop went to hell.... The South destroyed the artform

 

[JustCKing]

The first time they lost it to L.A. it was still great... (Pac, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Cube, Quik, MC Eiht, E-40, Too Short, Dre etc)

Then they recaptured it with Hov, DMX, Nas, Dipset,50 etc in the early 2000s...

When they lost it after that, that's when hip hop went to hell.... The South destroyed the artform

NY did not run the early '00's. They recaptured Hip Hop in like 1997 and by 2000, there was the Midwest and The South.