this joint brings back so many childhood memories of growing up in Harlem
LL Cool J - Around The Way Girl (Clean) (John Cha Extend) - YouTube
at the camera sayin Oct. 7 1990. i was like 8 days old 
Did LL Cool J create the template for Pac & Big
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at the camera sayin Oct. 7 1990. i was like 8 days old 
vaudevillevillain
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@ Biggie having a template
Piff Perkins
Veteran
LL created a template for everyone
FeloniousMonk
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Biggie not having influences to inspire his style.Todays Mc's and hybreds thereof have been influenced by these rappers:
Rakim
LL
Too Short
Kool G
Kane
Slick Rick
Krs
Chuck D
Scarface
Ice Cube
Kool Moe D
vaudevillevillain
All Star
Todays Mc's and hybreds thereof have been influenced by these rappers:
Rakim
LL
Kool G
Kane
Slick Rick
Krs
Chuck D
Scarface
Ice Cube
Kool Moe D
influences and templates are two different things
Big sounds like none of the rappers you mentioned either
Yeah this is beyond nostalgia or giving superlative props, this is fact. LL was was the first solo hip hop superstar (other than maybe Kurtis Blow lol?). That made him the true blueprint for rappers...
He was literally showing people how to do this...
FeloniousMonk
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Doest have to, yet WE know those rappers influenced directly ALL rappers of today.
And if you really wanna go there listen to some Heavy D and tell me you dont hear Bigs flow.
vaudevillevillain
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i don't hear Big's flow when I listen to Heavy D
FeloniousMonk
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And you listened to all Heavy D albums, or just whats played on tv?
Dont think its a coincidence Puffy was working with Heavy D -King of big boy swag...and HAPPEND to take biggie from hard core to player.....thank Pac for some of that swag as well.
FeloniousMonk
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Matter fact Heav D IS Bigs template
vaudevillevillain
All Star
what does any of this have to do with Big's flow?
and when's the last time u seen Heavy D on tv nikka
FeloniousMonk
Dont mind me..Im a azzhole
Templates and influences, you saying big doesnt sound like anybody..Im saying Heavy D....who Puff was directly connected with and was also the artist development behind BIG i.e if wanna make it large..gotta market you as a player, not hardcore rapper wearing hockey jerseys and rocking gold teeth. Comprehend?what does any of this have to do with Big's flow?
and when's the last time u seen Heavy D on tv nikka
Other than a rap video, whens the last time either was on t.v.?
LL IS on t.v. tho..
Whats your point?
vaudevillevillain
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this STILL has NOTHING to do with Biggie's FLOW or SOUND
the problem with RAP today is nikkas are caught up in everything but the RAP. if we talking RAP we talking RAP. not marketing schemes, hockey jerseys, gold teeth, fukk all that shyt.
and my point was, they don't show Heavy D on tv enough for you to say I only listen to what's played on tv
FeloniousMonk
Dont mind me..Im a azzhole
It has EVERYTHING to do with it.
Image on top has everything to do with rap, why u think style is a priority, especially in the hood?
My point is while big was selling crack back in the day, Heavy D was in full rotation, while Puff was a&r at MCA.
Ya boy Big even mentions Heav D int he 1st lines of his debut single.
