Did the "how many Finals losses" begin with Lebron?

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is his FG percentage more important than his record :gucci:
His record is a product of Shaq abusing his matchup every year in the finals, with his lowest scoring output being 33 points per game on 58% shooting against the defensive player of the year :camby:. The only finals he shot even average in was 2002 against the trash ass nets. By your same argument, Derek fisher was an all time great :camby:
 

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West's Finals record is irrelevant to a discussion about when people started tracking Finals L's and holding them against players? :wtf:
I already outlined why its held against lebron and its been hashed and rehashed numerous times in this thread. I'm not gonna get in a back in forth with you so hopefully your trolling, which if thats the case you already accomplished your mission in getting this many replies out of me.
 

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His record is a product of Shaq abusing his matchup every year in the finals, with his lowest scoring output being 33 points per game on 58% shooting against the defensive player of the year :camby:. The only finals he shot even average in was 2002 against the trash ass nets. By your same argument, Derek fisher was an all time great :camby:
Lebron's Finals trophies are a product of rigging his conference by abandoning his team to play with 2 of the best players in the conference therefore removing any future threat of competition in the conference while the team he abandoned got to breed #1 draft picks every year he was gone until his return :camby:
 

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I already outlined why its held against lebron and its been hashed and rehashed numerous times in this thread. I'm not gonna get in a back in forth with you so hopefully your trolling, which if thats the case you already accomplished your mission in getting this many replies out of me.

Naw breh, that ain't what I asked you. I'll try again.

West's Finals record is irrelevant to a discussion about when people started tracking Finals L's and holding them against players? :wtf:

Yes or no answer please.
 

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Lebron's Finals trophies are a product of rigging his conference by abandoning his team to play with 2 of the best players in the conference therefore removing any future threat of competition in the conference while the team he abandoned got to breed #1 draft picks every year he was gone
So you're of the opinion that he should've stayed on a team with a back court of mo Williams and Anthony Parker with 38 year old Shaq and sideshow bob as its big men then. Ok thanks for letting me know you're not worth engaging further :listofjericho:
 

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So you're of the opinion that he should've stayed on a team with a back court of mo Williams and Anthony Parker with 38 year old Shaq and sideshow bob as its big men then. Ok thanks for letting me know you're not worth engaging further :listofjericho:
he got to the finals with them. he proved that the team was good enough to finish as best team in his conference multiple times befoe. I don't think it was necessary to join the 2nd best player in your conference and maybe the 3rd best i mean who do yall compete against now lol
 
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Nah. I'll take the two HOFamers MJ, one with prior championship experience (rodman) and the other good enough to carry a team to 55 wins w/o (Pippen) along with a HOF coach over what Bron had
Not talking career accolades, just their individual finals performances. Jordan never had a co-star average 27 ppg in a Finals
 

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When Jordan had two rings, he said Bird and magic were who he was chasing. He put that out there. He said those two were above him. He set them as the standard he was chasing. He set out to surpass those two and did and so then he became the gold standard.

Lebron wants to talk all this "im chasing a ghost" shyt, "striveforgreatness" hashtags propaganda, but the moment he gets compared to the GOAT he's chasing, its ,"why cant i just be me?", "WHEN the game's over, I'm thinking about going home and playing with my sons. There's more to life than basketball." He wants to be considered the greatest but hates being compared to the greatest because of his failures and how they dont stack up.
When his Careers over, he's gonna be shytting all over Jordan in stats:dahell:. How is that not stacking up?
 

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Not talking career accolades, just their individual finals performances. Jordan never had a co-star average 27 ppg in a Finals
Yet he had two guys that were lock down defenders and the only man I ever saw give Shaq problems in Rodman.

Rodman holding Shaq was :wow:
 
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