Did the NBA product suddenly suck when viewership dropped by 50% when MJ 1st retired?

[triplehate]

It’s a poor model breh. The league is forced to reinvent itself anytime a great retires. Meanwhile, I can be on vacation in Jamaica and see a family from Grandparents to newborns dressed in random Steelers gear from head to toe.

The NBA doesnt offer generational fanmanship outside of NY, LA, Boston, or Philly.

Football is such an outlier that there isn't anything you can even learn from them when it comes to marketing a product.

Third place behind NFL and college football is a dope spot, you'll make a lot of money right there

 

[10bandz]

Kobe fans destroyed the league.

Everything that we’re seeing now is a byproduct of disingenuous, cynical, ring culture fanbase.

Well ask yourself, what great player benefits most from context-less counting of rings. When did ring culture go into hyper mode? It’s when Bron became a threat to Kobe. So let me get this straight you’re a better scorer but I score the same ppg as you, I score more than you in the playoffs, I avg more assists, more rebounds, im more athletic, im doing more with less. Kobe had literally nothing on Lebron expect…..

RANGZ.

So in order to stave off lebron, it ushered in the ideology that your stats don’t matter, you playing the game the right way don’t matter. Your regular season don’t matter, reaching the finals don’t matter in fact if you lose ima make it a negative. All that matters is ngga lemme see them RAAANGZ

Ffwd that same mentality has led to: your regular season don’t matter, your playoffs don’t matter, your all star game don’t matter, nothing matters at all except the chip. And guess what we gon dismiss that too if we don’t like you. Bron got a ‘bubble ring’. Tatum wins a ring it’s ‘but you didn’t do it with aura’, and ‘JB is better’. League is cooked bc the fanbase is cooked and that’s the genesis

so kobe fans ruined the league cuz Bron failed to win more than him while having 3 different super teams

bron did more with less

 

[10bandz]

They ruined this board too

yeah Kobe fans rooting for the Lakers ruined the board. Not the guys like yourself who's favorite team has gone from the Heat to the Cavs to the Lakers.

Laker haters flooding a Laker thread for 7 years because of one dude they're following = real fans


shytting on Steph, KD, Kyrie, Giannis, AD for years because of one dude they're following = real fans

 

[10bandz]

5 > 3

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725253-michael-jordan-ranks-kobe-bryant-over-lebron-james-saying-five-beats-three

"Would I rank LeBron over Kobe in terms of best of all time? No. There's something about five that beats three. Now he may be better than that, but Kobe won five championships. LeBron won three."

KOBE FANS
KOBE FANS
KOBE FANS

 

[Joe Sixpack]

yeah Kobe fans rooting for the Lakers ruined the board. Not the guys like yourself who's favorite team has gone from the Heat to the Cavs to the Lakers.

Laker haters flooding a Laker thread for 7 years because of one dude they're following = real fans


shytting on Steph, KD, Kyrie, Giannis, AD for years because of one dude they're following = real fans

Where's your 1/6 scale Kobe Action Figure you fukkin homo weirdo

 

[jaydawg08]

Ffwd that same mentality has led to: your regular season don’t matter, your playoffs don’t matter, your all star game don’t matter, nothing matters at all except the chip. And guess what we gon dismiss that too if we don’t like you. Bron got a ‘bubble ring’. Tatum wins a ring it’s ‘but you didn’t do it with aura’, and ‘JB is better’. League is cooked bc the fanbase is cooked and that’s the genesis

One of the truest statements made about how fans view the NBA.

Tatums ring somehow is cheapened because he didn’t have aura and JB played well… it’s insane

 

[Braman]

One of the truest statements made about how fans view the NBA.

Tatums ring somehow is cheapened because he didn’t have aura and JB played well… it’s insane

And now it’s quiet as a church mouse when Tatum is ——once again——CLEARLY the better player

 

[Buckeye Fever]

It didn't suck to me. I finally got to see what a Pippen-led team could do. I also got to see Ewing compete for a ring.

No one players stops the show for me.

My main thing is competitiveness. If it looks like all players are competing at a high level, I can live with any style of play.

I got to see my favorite player, Pippen, have his best statistical season, yet his most criticized moment(refusing to go back in the game because a play was drawn up for Kukoc, and Kukoc hit the shot)

 

[Art Barr]

The worst thing the NBA ever did was leave CBS. The NBC marketing was overrated and made it too star driven a league

This.


CBS was rhe best joke for the nba.

They taught the viewer actual high percentage theories.
in play on court to roster every telecast .

Whereas nbc was some commercial urban wack colorful marketing firm type shyt.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

this is where Stern fukked up.

Stern was in a rehabilitating mode for rhe league.

So stern had to cultivate an gateway draw in some manner. That manner at rhe time was marketing a new deface of the league based on skill.

Whereas the natural inclination of the general nba fan before stern was a to enable a racist white man.
Playing under the umbrella that bill Russell built. While being coached by kc Jones. Yet being racist as fukk in that same vein in Boston.
Under the iron fist of red auerbach.




Art Barr

 

[Boonapalist]

They ruined this board too

You don’t bring shyt to this board but rambling and dikkriding. STFU talking about someone ruined something. nikka you don’t even understand the sport you’re watching

 

[NYC Rebel]

It didn't suck to me. I finally got to see what a Pippen-led team could do. I also got to see Ewing compete for a ring.

No one players stops the show for me.

My main thing is competitiveness. If it looks like all players are competing at a high level, I can live with any style of play.

I got to see my favorite player, Pippen, have his best statistical season, yet his most criticized moment(refusing to go back in the game because a play was drawn up for Kukoc, and Kukoc hit the shot)

What I saw was Ewing being STUCK with John Starks being his second option. Compared to watching the depth of 80s NBA teams, that shyt was trash (no fault of Ewing or Starks). It was lower quality basketball

 

[NYC Rebel]

This.


CBS was rhe best joke for the nba.

They taught the viewer actual high percentage theories.
in play on court to roster every telecast .

Whereas nbc was some commercial urban wack colorful marketing firm type shyt.



Art Barr

The NBA on NBC LITERALLY made this opening MJ vs the Knicks.



Not MJs fault, but NBC was so playercentric it hurt the game once MJ left. You couldnt do that for any other player . NO ONE captivated people like MJ, so it couldnt work. Imagine trying to do an opening like that for Clyde or Reggie Miller?

CBS wasnt on this shyt.



Their storylines dove into the ebb & flow of the series between both TEAMS, sprinkling in the players.

Thats what kept us watching

 

[Art Barr]

The NBA on NBC LITERALLY made this opening MJ vs the Knicks.



Not MJs fault, but NBC was so playercentric it hurt the game once MJ left. You couldnt do that for any other player . NO ONE captivated people like MJ, so it couldnt work. Imagine trying to do an opening like that for Clyde or Reggie Miller?

CBS wasnt on this shyt.



Their storylines dovr into the ebb & flow of the series between both TEAMS, sprinkling in the players.

Thats what kept us watching

CBS was that deal and also the best long term station and home for hoops.

I loved their coverage.


NBC never understood the game from a strategic level.
To really keep the viewer captivated.
as to why they are really there. Plus value in what they were really there to watch.


NBA hoops on CBS was beautiful large network magical television.
That marketed the viewer strategically to the game. When people say of ncaa is better. That is not true. The CBS strategic game coverage of the ncaa tourney is superior.
to NBC and Disney's wode world of sports ol school pre-empt'd coverage of the nba.





Art Barr

 

[NYC Rebel]

CBS was that deal and also the bwst long term station and home for hoops.

I loved their coverage.


NBC never understood the game from a strategic level.
To really keep the viewer captivated as to why they are really there. Plus value in what they were really there to watch.


MBA hoops on CBS was beautiful large network magical television.



Art Barr

NBC put NBA players in the position of a musical act having to follow up after a James Brown performance.

You cant follow MJ. He was a once in a lifetime act.