Did TI take the least damaging undeniable L from Luda?

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That War WIt God is light:manny:

Prime T.I was all time great when it came to talking down on nikkas like peons,Luda would've been no different if it had came to that....Everybody involved knew either one potentially end the others career,so they decided to go ahead and call that wack azz truce.

If I had to put money on it,i woulda bet it all on T.I back then:banderas:....



this chit is corny b.:mjlol:
 

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Not T.I's lane:laff:?T.I "not that atrocious"


The colis ignorance or blind hate of the king gets worse by the day

Whats crazy is they talkin bout 2004 TIP. That nikka was gotdamn MONSTER from Down with Da King through Urban Legend (early '04-late '05). My Favorite era from him. That run was insane.





They try their hardest to marginalize his greatness but real nikkas know...LEGEND.
 

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You not allowed to say that after a thread of praising Luda:mjlol:

Luda had a nice career but he didn't leave a lasting impact.


well its not like T.I. is a guy that cracks my top 50 either, so i don't see the point of going there.

and this isn't about that. this is about the battle.
 
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Stomp wasn't they 1st diss towards each other, them nikkas had been going at each other for YEARS...shyt them skits Luda had (i forgot which album) with the angry rapper talking bout "being in these streets" was shots at TIP...and Tip took plenty shots at Luda before stomp. Stomp was just the 1st time they mentioned each other's name
 

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People really in here claiming Shawty Lo exposed T.I. as a snitch. :laff:. If that's what this "exposal" ya'll are referring to is, then you have no idea of what an exposal is. First, an exposal is when you reveal information that no one wants revealed. Second, it isn't accusation or speculation, proof is actually presented. What's funny is people already speculated (without confirmation or actual proof) that T.I. was a snitch when he got sentenced. People who had either done real time, knew people who had done time, or just people who tried to rationalize why he didn't get more time than he did were comparing other people's cases to T.I.'s. All of them who claimed he snitch could never present evidence of who he allegedly gave up.

It's even more laughable that people think Shawty Lo or Lil' Flip damaged T.I.'s career. T.I. damaged his own career. People still stood with him when he caught the charges for the guns. What does he do in spite of the support? He goes and gets arrested again. That's when people turned on him because many of them felt like he :pacspit: after they supported him.
 

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Stomp wasn't they 1st diss towards each other, them nikkas had been going at each other for YEARS...shyt them skits Luda had (i forgot which album) with the angry rapper talking bout "being in these streets" was shots at TIP...and Tip took plenty shots at Luda before stomp. Stomp was just the 1st time they mentioned each other's name

This.

T.I. was sending shots in his freestyles on Rap City and mixtapes he did. I remember in one of the freestyles he said something like "if you keep on running your teeth, I'm a start disturbing your peace". Then he kind of came at Luda on "In Da A" (not the Big Boi record, but a song T.I. had on the In Da Streetz mixtape in 2002). He said something about "there's more to the A than what you hear from J.D. and them" in reference to Jermaine Dupri's "Welcome To Atlanta" featuring Luda. Luda's interludes were definitely going at T.I. because they referenced those mixtapes that T.I. was putting out at the time.

What's funny is that all of T.I.'s beefs started over pettiness. He had issues with Luda because Luda wouldn't play his songs when he was DJ (or treated T.I. and his crew like they were beneath him). It was something to that effect. The thing with Flip started because of something about doing a Source cover with Flip (it was the one that featured J-Kwon, Flip, and the Yung Gunz) and being on the remix to "Game Over". According to Shawty Lo, his beef with T.I. stemmed from him asking T.I. to get on a record and T.I. turned it down and then dissed Lo on "Big Things Poppin".
 

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This.

T.I. was sending shots in his freestyles on Rap City and mixtapes he did. I remember in one of the freestyles he said something like "if you keep on running your teeth, I'm a start disturbing your peace". Then he kind of came at Luda on "In Da A" (not the Big Boi record, but a song T.I. had on the In Da Streetz mixtape in 2002). He said something about "there's more to the A than what you hear from J.D. and them" in reference to Jermaine Dupri's "Welcome To Atlanta" featuring Luda. Luda's interludes were definitely going at T.I. because they referenced those mixtapes that T.I. was putting out at the time.

What's funny is that all of T.I.'s beefs started over pettiness. He had issues with Luda because Luda wouldn't play his songs when he was DJ (or treated T.I. and his crew like they were beneath him). It was something to that effect. The thing with Flip started because of something about doing a Source cover with Flip (it was the one that featured J-Kwon, Flip, and the Yung Gunz) and being on the remix to "Game Over". According to Shawty Lo, his beef with T.I. stemmed from him asking T.I. to get on a record and T.I. turned it down and then dissed Lo on "Big Things Poppin".

His pettiness is what gave him the feel of a king:wow:...I like the fact he was goin at Luda just because he thought he was a clown who was representing Atlanta wrong and he thought he should be the face of Atlanta...I don't know if people stopped supporting him just because he went to jail again,i think people were already moving away from him when he went to jail the second time....Plus It was hard enough watching sumbody as arrogant as T.I be humbl by the feds once,but watching it twice:mjcry:?The same man who said "7 time felon what I care about a case man:childplease:",who bragged about using cell phones in jail,bragged about shooting a video and saying he would do it again,after causing that uproar and getting the whole jail in trouble for it:mjlol:...But you cant deny the run he had,he really was young Cassisus Clay of his era:mjcry:
 
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This.

T.I. was sending shots in his freestyles on Rap City and mixtapes he did. I remember in one of the freestyles he said something like "if you keep on running your teeth, I'm a start disturbing your peace". Then he kind of came at Luda on "In Da A" (not the Big Boi record, but a song T.I. had on the In Da Streetz mixtape in 2002). He said something about "there's more to the A than what you hear from J.D. and them" in reference to Jermaine Dupri's "Welcome To Atlanta" featuring Luda. Luda's interludes were definitely going at T.I. because they referenced those mixtapes that T.I. was putting out at the time.

What's funny is that all of T.I.'s beefs started over pettiness. He had issues with Luda because Luda wouldn't play his songs when he was DJ (or treated T.I. and his crew like they were beneath him). It was something to that effect. The thing with Flip started because of something about doing a Source cover with Flip (it was the one that featured J-Kwon, Flip, and the Yung Gunz) and being on the remix to "Game Over". According to Shawty Lo, his beef with T.I. stemmed from him asking T.I. to get on a record and T.I. turned it down and then dissed Lo on "Big Things Poppin".


Funny cause TIP was in that welcome to Atlanta video lol
 

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It's even more laughable that people think Shawty Lo or Lil' Flip damaged T.I.'s career. T.I. damaged his own career. People still stood with him when he caught the charges for the guns. What does he do in spite of the support? He goes and gets arrested again. That's when people turned on him because many of them felt like he :pacspit: after they supported him.


this sounds like some girl and faq chit.

aint no men turn on TI because of that. he just fell off, plain & simple. that and he chased the crossover.
 

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this sounds like some girl and faq chit.

aint no men turn on TI because of that. he just fell off, plain & simple. that and he chased the crossover.

It's just as female and faq to turn on artist because they were dissed by another artist.

Still, people turned on T.I. because of that. He made Paper Trail which was full of "I'm sorry's" and promises to fans. He had momentum going into King Uncaged. "I'm Back" which was the first song he dropped when he got out was heavy. He was dropping songs left and right and was on several guest spots. He then got locked up again, which caused King Uncaged to be scrapped and the label put out No Mercy. The first single from it was another apology song ("Get Back Up" feat Chris Brown). I knew his career wasn't the same after that because I remember being in the barbershop and people being like "that ain't gon work this time". Not only that, but it was huge drop off commercially from Paper Trail.

He didn't fall off until Paper Work. Trouble Man was a huge step up from No Mercy and was T.I. returning to what made him.
 

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Back when 'Stomp' first dropped I heard it on the 'Welcome To Cashville' leak, everyone was saying Luda got T.I, but I always liked TI verse better, (and obviously much more as an artist), it was a dope song, but Luda was just a cartoon character, T.I verse was just street....'We can do it like the row but you ain't with that', 'you know who make the trap jump like the kings of crunk, this chopper hit ya bytch you wish you got your ass stomped'.

No. T.I is the cartoon character who dikk rode his uncle's life from his riverdale suburb. Luda checked him twice, and T.I didn't say or do anything, which exposed him as the fraud that he is. Luda is 100% more street than T.I fake ass. Luda even challenged T.I to a fight and T.I backed down. T.I, Lil John, and Waka Flocka are the biggest frauds to ever grace the mic.
 

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It's just as female and faq to turn on artist because they were dissed by another artist.

Still, people turned on T.I. because of that. He made Paper Trail which was full of "I'm sorry's" and promises to fans. He had momentum going into King Uncaged. "I'm Back" which was the first song he dropped when he got out was heavy. He was dropping songs left and right and was on several guest spots. He then got locked up again, which caused King Uncaged to be scrapped and the label put out No Mercy. The first single from it was another apology song ("Get Back Up" feat Chris Brown). I knew his career wasn't the same after that because I remember being in the barbershop and people being like "that ain't gon work this time". Not only that, but it was huge drop off commercially from Paper Trail.

He didn't fall off until Paper Work. Trouble Man was a huge step up from No Mercy and was T.I. returning to what made him.


who turned on who because they dissed another artist? I'm lost.

the bolded is just talk breh. aint no real man gonna stop checkin for a rapper because he keeps getting locked up. if anything, it makes people check for them more. problem is, by that time T.I. was bordering on a whole different fanbase. he was catering towards chatty-patties by then. so yea, youre kinda right jim.
 
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