Did trap rap destroy hip hop

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ok, work in a school and see how u feel...rates can drop because of other things you know.....but believe what u want

n lol @ that quote...jazz n music like that wasnt rapping bout killing people n a lifestyle all the time.
Work in a school for what.
Public schools been shyt since they started.
Rates can drop because of other things, you literally said since the 90s things got worse with the youth, that is simply factually incorrect, in terms of rate and absolute number.

Jazz music, blues, and rock and roll were literally called the devils music by the old and said to lead to pregnancy, drinking, drug usage, and violence. There is no difference in what you are saying about today's music and what people said about music of the youth in previous times, you simply don't have the knowledge of history to see the pattern
 

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I've said it a bunch of times, I am from the A, but Atlanta should not be the epicenter of Hip-Hop. Atlanta, has and always will be a beat driven culture.

Booty Shake music was the A sound before the Dungeon Family. Once the mighty DF started to fade, the sound went back to one primarily driven by beats and not lyrics. One thing about the A, what is popular, is mainly driven by women-especially in Strip clubs. From there it goes to regular clubs and then radio which cater to women. Most women just don't care about lyrics like that.

Now you have the rest of the country trying to duplicate the ATL sound and lyricism suffers.
 

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I've said it a bunch of times, I am from the A, but Atlanta should not be the epicenter of Hip-Hop. Atlanta, has and always will be a beat driven culture.

Booty Shake music was the A sound before the Dungeon Family. Once the mighty DF started to fade, the sound went back to one primarily driven by beats and not lyrics. One thing about the A, what is popular, is mainly driven by women-especially in Strip clubs. From there it goes to regular clubs and then radio which cater to women. Most women just don't care about lyrics like that.

Now you have the rest of the country trying to duplicate the ATL sound and lyricism suffers.


Atl is also a pop rnb based hub landscape.
trying to flodge'n like it is culturally based.
Real talk, past dro the a has no great emcees historically.

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They didn't do shyt to hip hop in the early 90s that people didn't literally say about blues, R&B, and rock (when it was black) earlier.
Barr's post means nothing, because statistically 80s - 2010s black youth crime, pregnancy, and drug usage rates have declined overall (excluding weed)

You are mentally old and tired.
What you are saying is no different from anything older people have said for centuries about the "youth".

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Where are you from and where were you in the April of 93?
Where were you on October 5th 1992.

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It won't stop because the types of music that sprung up to squelch it.
had some form of cultural movement or identity.

Rap was the last culture based uncompromised music till it was compromised and we have reached the endgame.
To the point rap is gonna be as wack as a rap found in post apoclayptic movies like chappie and that movie where ving rhames had the awful dread wig.


Art Barr


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He's right brehs

Grunge killed that awful 80s hair metal shyt but it wouldn't have been able to do it without having a strong sub cultural following :ohhh:


Now I wonder if it's even possible for a sub culture like hip hop or grunge to fully grow as organically in the internet age.:ohhh:


Seems like once anything gets any sort of buzz these pop mainstream nikkas like :heh: Will be there to kirby that shyt and prematurely ride the wave. In other words I don't expect anyone to kurt cobain the trap game anytime soon
 

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Not true,.. if there was no krs the birthplace of the actual culture would have been lost to the popular radio dj and his upstart spewing false narrative about the culture.
If not for krs rap would have died after ll the boy king was done on bigger and deffer.

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He's right brehs

Grunge killed that awful 80s hair metal shyt but it wouldn't have been able to do it without having a strong sub cultural following :ohhh:


Now I wonder if it's even possible for a sub culture like hip hop or grunge to fully grow as organically in the internet age.:ohhh:


Seems like once anything gets any sort of buzz these pop mainstream nikkas like :heh: Will be there to kirby that shyt and prematurely ride the wave. In other words I don't expect anyone to kurt cobain the trap game anytime soon


It won't be anymore saviors like Kurt or Eddie to save rock.
Plus they won't ever be another young new cultural emcee.
to set balance to the rap industry ever again.


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I'm from Montgomery, AL
April 93 and oct 5th 92 I was at home in Montgomery, al


What rap releases dropped on October 5, 1992 in rap and six months later.
what rap records were slow burn singles and added to the national daytime playlist?
I should not have had to further ask you this, either.
All because if you knew what this culture is.
you should know that date as it pertains to the prison industrial complex and what occured.
Plus, real talk given your locale.
I hardly believe you are this cultural bboy like that.
Like what skill from the pillars did you use on October 5, 1992 as well.



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South rap killed the competition and competitive nature every body tryna
Be the same trap rap is also very redundant and forgettable
 
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South rap killed the competition and competitive nature every body tryna
Be the same trap rap is also very redundant and forgettable


Trap is basically the Stephen king urban horror wing of horrorcore like people under the stairs is.
Horror is a small investment based genre in film, books media and in rap.
meant to make a large return from a smaller investment than most rap in the industry.
in that rap's horror genre or horrorcore is its equivalent.
The problem is the Mecca allowed the protection mechanism to be compromised and when cultural emcees who supposed to protect it in the Mecca failed to respond, accordingly to defend.
Instead sold out and hid their hands on some bullshyt afterwards.
Horrorcore always existed and has been a b*stard son culturally of the rap industry.
Esham, natas, bone, brotha lynch hung was never accepted culturally wholeheartedly.
shyt em may have sold the most but his horrorcore direction.
from comedy to serious is questioned just like his horrorcore predecessors before him. That now Eminem does not permeate in the same manner and that is to be expected because horrorcore acts will wane in draw and permeation like horror as a genre will always do.

Trying to cite the genre for going awry.
when it is meant to be a shock based low submission is inaccurate.
when culturally we had music built around the fortitude of our culture.
That horrorcore could and did exist.
yet never had dominate sway culturally over hiphop.
Culture based emcees from the Mecca are supposed to set the example regardless.
especially if they were the lead protector and our lead protector.
Gave an erroneous pass to puff after being duped and then never attacked puff the way he should have been dispatched.
Instead he shirked his responsibility.
If krs is not gonna act.
Especially after being used and duped.
Then, that creates a discrepancy and slippery slope.
The culture has never been about wavering.
If you gon diss cube for flodge'n.
then puff supposed to have caught it as well.
If you dissin' kool rock steady and destroying hiphouse like it should have been. Puff supposed to catch it. Not to mention, in that same instance you had the best album sales and single in 1997 as well. With puff on it and regardless you still supposed to serve puff.
All because puff erroneously used your cosign to also draw.
If you got pos dissin puff, it won't stick if you got krs protecting puff.
If you got young em dissin mase that is cool.
Yet, you needed krs dispatching puff.
Instead we got the foreshadow to krs shirk'n responsibility the same way just shy of two decades later we got krs shirk'n his responsibility as protector to bam. Which is not right and our culture is fukked up from that.

If you dissin nelly for infringe'n on being number one.
which we know is bogus because b real said and gave homage based props for covering I am still number one

Then why the fukk is puff allowed to flodge and not be called out and ruin the Mecca and the culture's most important song.
Regardless, if it was melle's record or not.

The problem is the Mecca and out protector allowing this bullshyt on his watch and permitting shyt that he never allowed previously.
That just till now twenty years later showed up again in his failure to act.
Puff is the issue but krs not acting is also why things are awry as well.
The entire cultural guard let us down after that continually and violated the culture.
Yet the precdent was set by krs to look the other way as well.



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