Did trap rap destroy hip hop

[Art Barr]

I don't know if trap music is Hip Hop. I enjoy trap music, but it did dumb down the genre as a whole. It made the barrier to entry lower. It lowered the standards of skill.

trap originally was a southern take on call response early eighties meets early nineties offkey vocal style war based rap.
yet, as soon as house/edm/pop or basically wack sellout rnb or disco.
found a way to sonically steal the entire makeup of the genre, using the mca model from mjb.
it became compromised,..where now trap is the go to sound for pop and now.
it leads to the question you posed in your post.

art barr

 

[Art Barr]

ive never been of the belief that one faction of hiphop could take down the entire genre

and when trap is done well, its good to me. i consider it hip hop's metal. its an acquired taste, its raw, unapologetic

did hair band overproduced metal ruin rock,...?

yeah, it did.
just like disco ruined rnb to pop music and all of music.
you meld the two most corrosive forms of pop music together devoid of culture and here we are.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

scarface n ugk ball n g...were doing trap rap prior to the name becoming trap...

hip hop not dead..

the art form of grafitti n break dancin n shyt yeah..that shyt dead..

but rap..hell fukk nall..nikkas still eating..

nikkas want the ol thing back..but the same bullshyt was around when the ol shyt was around..

rap is dead as a cultural gateway draw just like breaking graf and dj'n breh.

they killed't every economic base of the pillars of the culture of hiphop to succeed.


art barr

 

[madness]

Trap music is the easiest to mimic. You have pasty Australian females coming in, doing their best southern rapper impersonation and eating nicely off it. You can't get away with that on boom bap or g-funk.

Any random Joe blow who is a tad bit musically inclined and has a keyboard and a bootleg copy of fruity loops can make a trap beat in 20 minutes and then invite his homies over to spit mediocre verses/catchy hooks on it in his home studio.

When everyone has access to it and it can be easily duplicated, the quality producers/artists suffer. Why pay Organized Noize or Mannie Fresh $50,000 for a beat when you can get an imitation knock off from a local producer for $5,000?

 

[SoulController]

did hair band overproduced metal ruin rock,...?

yeah, it did.
just like disco ruined pop music and all of music.
you meld the two most corrosive forms of pop music together devoid of culture and here we are.


art barr

rock was definately held hostage for the mid 80s, until Guns N Roses and a few others brought that feeling back. im not sure if one act is capable of that in hip hop, but eventually trap will wear itself out. i will say its gone on 3 years longer than i thought it would, and it spread into rn'b like crazy

 

[G-Zeus]

yes,

trap became bigger than the music.. the music quality became secondary to the things said in it.. and the worse part.. it got kid everywhere wanting to be trapstars..

my nephew in law is a trap start now... but look here

we canadian.. living in the suburb.. both his folks works and are relatively successful..

why is he trapping for?????????????????? but this dude is crazy about trap rap.. i've known him since he was 5 years old...

this is what the popular music does to kids.. in 2010 he was dancing... in 2016 he slinging

 

[Art Barr]

rock was definately held hostage for the mid 80s, until Guns N Roses and a few others brought that feeling back. im not sure if one act is capable of that in hip hop, but eventually trap will wear itself out. i will say its gone on 3 years longer than i thought it would, and it spread into rn'b like crazy

It won't stop because the types of music that sprung up to squelch it.
had some form of cultural movement or identity.
Rap was the last culture based uncompromised music till it was compromised and we have reached the endgame.
To the point rap is gonna be as wack as a rap found in post apoclayptic movies like chappie and that movie where ving rhames had the awful dread wig.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

LOL

yes,

trap became bigger than the music.. the music quality became secondary to the things said in it.. and the worse part.. it got kid everywhere wanting to be trapstars..

my nephew in law is a trap start now... but look here

we canadian.. living in the suburb.. both his folks works and are relatively successful..

why is he trapping for?????????????????? but this dude is crazy about trap rap.. i've known him since he was 5 years old...

this is what the popular music does to kids.. in 2010 he was dancing... in 2016 he slinging

Shawty flodge'n,......
At least in Canada he can pull some white privilege type shyt.
when he is 18 and just not be a criminal anymore.
In America, you don't get to do that.


Art Barr

 

[SoulController]

To the point rap is gonna be as wack as a rap found in post apoclayptic movies like chappie and that movie where ving rhames had the awful dread wig.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

u nikkas just forget puffy, c+c music factory, vanilla ice gerado..and others..that was pavin the lane of dumbness

Until puff none of that music infringed on the actual culture and people of the culture of hiphop that is the difference.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Get ready, breh.


Art Barr

 

[David_TheMan]

Damn shame when blacks take up the language of white people who actively try to control and warp anything we are a part of.
Trap music is a phase of hip hop that the black populace selected, it is what it is, instead of complaining about it just accept like a lot of things tastes shift over time.
That is all it is, we need to kill all this "real" hip hop shyt that whites try to force on our music.

This is the same shyt whites did with jazz, and had a young black man, Wynton Marsalius, growing up buying into white interpretation of our own music and shytting on a legend like Miles Davis thinking he is protecting his culture, but doing nothing but ignoring it and disrespecting a legend who paved the way for his own success.

 

[L $ C]

it has everything to do with destroying lyrical content, breh./
as the jiggy culture thief are the exact reason we are where we are now, and we won't recover.

the problem is the mecca has no one with any balls to say what needs to be said about the mecca and allowing this to happen.
as everyone except the protectors of the culture in the mecca said sumfin but when you have krs not paying attention and not trying to take criticism in full for empowering puff this is also what you get as well.
coupled with the fact krs had skill conversion issues as did all of rap when the jiggy sonic landscape change was ushered in.
so our protector was limited and also in a state of adjustment that took like a good decade i wanna say to recover skillwise to the sonic landscape change.

the return of jiggy old school dj hollywood meets mca model ol school sellout template based work.
ruined rap and moved it right back into the fad region they said rap would be.
if not for the hardcore bboy revolution.

art barr

lota truth here


just from a simple sense, trap music i dont think ruined hip hop but its redefined it almost to a point hip hop doesnt really exist as it did

 

[L $ C]

Damn shame when blacks take up the language of white people who actively try to control and warp anything we are a part of.
Trap music is a phase of hip hop that the black populace selected, it is what it is, instead of complaining about it just accept like a lot of things tastes shift over time.
That is all it is, we need to kill all this "real" hip hop shyt that whites try to force on our music.

This is the same shyt whites did with jazz, and had a young black man, Wynton Marsalius, growing up buying into white interpretation of our own music and shytting on a legend like Miles Davis thinking he is protecting his culture, but doing nothing but ignoring it and disrespecting a legend who paved the way for his own success.

lets be honest, trap music is pretty terrible for our black communties

 

[David_TheMan]

lets be honest, trap music is pretty terrible for our black communties

trap music, rap music, movies, and entertainment have no link at all to being terrible to communities.
Lets kill that noise. They said the same thing about rock music when it was black music, same thing about blues, and etc.
Any black music is terrible for blacks, according to whites, and a lot of times blacks seem to start parroting it.

YOu know whats bad for black communities, the war on drugs, a racist criminal justice system, terrible government policies that subsidize unproductiveness and "gaming the system", and shytty parents.