Did trap rap destroy hip hop

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Yeah, nikkas cant rap but get paid to be a rapper. Jay was a hustler but he was nice. Esco was and is that nikka. The south got sicc of being down talked and made it about something other than skill. ANYTHING and everything but skill. Its not the south tho, more like atlanta. Atlanta shyt is the worse. Whens the last time u said a atlanta nikka was cold? Cyhi gets ignored and tbh hes one of very few that even belongs in the genre. So no not trap per se but atlanta killed it. In my opinion

I don't agree 100%, but this was a strong point. Hold this rep.
 

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Did Jay z destroy it by proclaiming he is a Rapper not a Hustler?

Did Nas destroy it when he tookon the ESCOBAR moniker?

Did Puff destroy it when he claimed he didnt write rhymes he wrote checks while promoting the cocaine dealer themes of BIG...THE LOX...SHYNE??

At the end of the day you cant point the finger at Southern Trap Rap without holding East Coast Coke RAP :manny:


All of that has nothing to do with destroying the lyrical content in Hip Hop
 

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There is barely any diversity on the radio and billboards yet more people than ever are making music

There is a major upheaval in America and especially amongst black Americans but most rappers are still talking about the same old shyt

When you talk about being lyrical you're not talking about some advanced rhyme scheme on some lyrical miracle shyt, you're talking about whether the lyrics that are being said actually have some meaning, heart, and soul behind it, or is it just some bullshyt you're writing to rhyme.

I think hop hop for the most part has lost the grasp to connect to the people and speak for the people like it used to and what it was truthfully created for. Hip hop has gotten to this weird stage where you look at these rappers and it feels like they bought a "how to be a rapper starter kit", copy some dude that's already out and get put on. You have your local artists that will connect on a LOCAL level but that's where it ends.

Maybe hip hop has gotten to the point where everything that can be done within the genre has already been done and we need something new:jbhmm:
 

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There is barely any diversity on the radio and billboards yet more people than ever are making music

There is a major upheaval in America and especially amongst black Americans but most rappers are still talking about the same old shyt

When you talk about being lyrical you're not talking about some advanced rhyme scheme on some lyrical miracle shyt, you're talking about whether the lyrics that are being said actually have some meaning, heart, and soul behind it, or is it just some bullshyt you're writing to rhyme.

I think hop hop for the most part has lost the grasp to connect to the people and speak for the people like it used to and what it was truthfully created for. Hip hop has gotten to this weird stage where you look at these rappers and it feels like they bought a "how to be a rapper starter kit", copy some dude that's already out and get put on. You have your local artists that will connect on a LOCAL level but that's where it ends.

Maybe hip hop has gotten to the point where everything that can be done within the genre has already been done and we need something new:jbhmm:

I disagree with the last sentence in this post . Theres so much more going on right now that rappers could make music about but I feel that the trap genre really limits the way rappers express themselves.

If anything was lost with the rise of trap it was the layers of artistic expression in lyrical content. Most mainstream rap doesn't really go as deep as it used to IMO
 

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All of that has nothing to do with destroying the lyrical content in Hip Hop


Lyrical content = SUBJECT MATTER

You giving JAY a pass for his criminal subject matter simply cause he is SKILLED

But regardless JAY rapped in first person he promoted beinga hustler >>> rapper

We went from CLOSE THE CRACKHOUSE to DEAD PRESIDENTS

We went from SELF DESTRUCTION to BIG PIMPING

The anti dope anti pimp mentality of the 80s got murked by cats like JAY Z in the 90s

he wasnt just "reporting" it he and a few others blurred the lines and had people believing HE WAS ACTUALLY DOING IT

Thats what actually put the nail in the coffin for real hip hop which influenced the ATL trap sound

Which Corporate America got behind

Jay made it comfortable for nikkas to rap about cocaine in first person....

Lets call it what it is...
 
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Lyrical content = SUBJECT MATTER

You giving JAY a pass for his criminal subject matter simply cause he is SKILLED

But regardless JAY rapped in first person he promoted beinga hustler >>> rapper

We went from CLOSE THE CRACKHOUSE to DEAD PRESIDENTS

We went from SELF DESTRUCTION to BIG PIMPING

The anti dope anti pimp mentality of the 80s got murked by cats like JAY Z

he wasnt just "reporting" it he and a few others blurred the lines and had people believing HE WAS ACTUALLY DOING IT

Thats what actually put the nail in the coffin for real hip hop which influenced the ATL trap sound

Which Corporate America got behind

Jay made it comfortable for nikkas to rap about cocaine in first person....

Lets call it what it is...



Lyrical content meaning Lyricism. Don't BS yourself breh :russ:


Subject Matter changes in Hip Hop damn near every 5 years. From the beginning in 1979 party raps, to more conscious in 1986, to more street in the mid 90s, to more flashy in the late 90s, to street again in early 2000s, etc etc

Subject matter of the South is not the problem. I actually don't mind the subject matter in this region :yeshrug:. Actually, 90s and early 2000s Southern Hip Hop are one of my fav genres to listen to. But after 2005, is when lyricism went out the window. And the dumbasses cosigning it ruined Hip Hop. Anyone who rather promote stripper music and molly pill popping music over a deeper message? fukk em, regardless of which region they from
 

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Did the south version of trap rap destroy hip hop. and take away from lyrical content
scarface n ugk ball n g...were doing trap rap prior to the name becoming trap...

hip hop not dead..

the art form of grafitti n break dancin n shyt yeah..that shyt dead..

but rap..hell fukk nall..nikkas still eating..

nikkas want the ol thing back..but the same bullshyt was around when the ol shyt was around..
 

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:usure: elevated?
how long ago was that?

thats the first song a cake would bring out they ass when they talk about the south..

nikka face..outkast..ugk...goodie mob...geto boys..cash money..no limit..them muhfukkin nikkas elevated it...

jus like for every rakim..kane, krs one ..type of nikkas u had on the east u had clown rappers eatin too..u didnt hear one word about nikkas sayin they killin hip hop

the main nikka screamin that self destruction shyt..beatin up a member from pm dawn on the stage

nikkas spittin the pro-black shyt..hypeman fukkin 6'7 white women..

white boy came out of dallas tx..went diamond


its room for everything in hip hop..hip hop critics are haters..n try n change history like their shyt didnt stink..shut the fukk up n enjoy it..

u dont like certain ppl..dont fukk with it..
 

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I don't know if trap music is Hip Hop. I enjoy trap music, but it did dumb down the genre as a whole. It made the barrier to entry lower. It lowered the standards of skill.
u nikkas just forget puffy, c+c music factory, vanilla ice gerado..and others..that was pavin the lane of dumbness
 
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