Its funny he says Boyz N Da Hood isn't pro black to him yet all of Kendricks music and work are literally that exact movie being presented sonically
Kendrick fans
Did we declare K.Dots TPAB a "Pro Black" album or was it assigned for us?
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Kendrick fansnikkas have no argument so just neg
Lol see how these peon "activist" call themselves fighting back. Refusing to acknowledge their argument is idiotic thus have to gonto these lengths
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Kendrick fans
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
I'm a fan of Kendrick but I'm not going to make him out to be anything but a dope rapper who happens to preach.
He preaches to black people and occasionally throws in "respectability politics" message whilst simultaneously playing the victim to police, despite not ever going through "the shyt", since he wasn't in the streets for real.
In this new liberal era, I suppose that is pro black. It's also anti-black in a way. His braggy-swaggy battle rappy shyt negates most of what he says in the conscious songs. Everybody's dual sided...can't be dual sided when you're criticizing your own for a majority white audience, though.
He preaches to black people and occasionally throws in "respectability politics" message whilst simultaneously playing the victim to police, despite not ever going through "the shyt", since he wasn't in the streets for real.
In this new liberal era, I suppose that is pro black. It's also anti-black in a way. His braggy-swaggy battle rappy shyt negates most of what he says in the conscious songs. Everybody's dual sided...can't be dual sided when you're criticizing your own for a majority white audience, though.
Doing what Job? lol dude go protest at a Trump Rally and get thrashed by old white men or something
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
dude just a troll. He doesnt know what he is trying to argue. He will post "bu bu who is saying it is pro black?" then in the same instance dap post saying it is a Pro Black album. At this point it's just best to put him on ignore.
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
I never said he couldn't
but the fact people act like their unpopular, or differing opinion should be treated with kid gloves, especially when they have to rely on some smearing of a fan base and entire people as if they're children (which is what @CashmereEsquire has done) that can't think for themselves.
If he can't stand other people disagreeing with what he disagrees with, maybe he should try to put a bit more thought in his dissertation.
What is your argument? Are you saying the Album is Pro Black or is it not?
You come in the thread saying "who labeled the album pro black? show me the articles saying that"
Then you proceed with people who say the album IS pro black.
Bruh get the hell on somewhere. You have confused yourself to the point that now you are just posting for the sake of posting and replying to Post Alerts.
You bring up people hating the album when the thread isn't about whether someone likes or dislikes the album.
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
What is your argument? Are you saying the Album is Pro Black or is it not?
You come in the thread saying "who labeled the album pro black? show me the articles saying that"
Then you proceed with people who say the album IS pro black.
Bruh get the hell on somewhere. You have confused yourself to the point that now you are just posting for the sake of posting and replying to Post Alerts.
You bring up people hating the album when the thread isn't about whether someone likes or dislikes the album.
Bruh, you of all people should realize the concepts and intricacies when considering something Pro-Black isn't always black or white.
If anyone is confused (and mad) it's you.
Exactly what I thought, refuse to answer my question. Stand on your square or get the hell on.
iFightSeagullsForBread
The Working Class Hero
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
Its funny he says Boyz N Da Hood isn't pro black to him yet all of Kendricks music and work are literally that exact movie being presented sonically
When it comes to music, an artists having pro-black sentiments in their songs trumps them having a full blown concept album of black nationalism which was my point hereYou ain't gonna get a Public Enemy type album anymore on the mainstream level, thanks to the gangsta rappers that pushed them out in the mid 90s for more materialistic and violent music. They phased it out and called the likes of Chuck D "preachy" and "corny." If you looking for a pro black album now, but blast a trap star record talking about catching bodies while sipping lean, it's partially your fault why a pro black revolutionary album can't pop off anymore with quality music.
On that note, Kendrick sparked the interest of a generation to push his message to be more aggressive. By no means Kendrick the GOAT MC, but if he sparks the youth to make pro black songs on the level of Ice Cube, then he done his job.
Me:
When people talk about Afrocentric/pro-Black HipHop, the majoirty of it wasn't on some Public Enemy/Dead Prez type shyt.I agree100% with this poster
So an album that is a collection of jazz, funk, spoken word, gospel, and hip hop while discussing subject matter such as
-Economic slavery
-The "pimping" of black culture/talent by white America
-Police brutality
-Reconnecting with Africa
-Colorism
-Black violence/gangs
-Peer pressure
-Self love
etc
is NOT a pro-black album, and is instead some bullshyt white people told black people to like? Never mind that the most seminal reviews of the album have come from black critics. Never mind that Alright is being chanted at protests every other month.
So tired of you try hard motherfukkers. If you don't like the album fine, that's your prerogative. But don't denigrate the black brother for putting out a mainstream album that speaks about nearly every important issue that was highlighted over the last couple years.
Wonder what you corny motherfukkers would have said about Public Enemy touring stadiums with lily white fans everywhere.
Like this below
While you have some points, I can't rock with that. To me, what you call pro-black elements is closer to what most Afrocentric/Pro-Black rap is like.
Sums it up perfectly
Kendrick puts a "pro black" sounding title and hook on the songs, then rambles about the same nonsense as every other rapper.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
The Rise and Fall of Afrocentric Rap as the Predominant Movement Within Hip-Hop
The Rise and Fall of Afrocentric Rap as the Predominant Movement Within Hip-Hop
Afrocentric rap, which can also be tagged as conscious rap, socially conscious rap, political rap, Black nationalist rap, militant rap, revolution rap, etc., was at its peak and was most widely consumed & embraced by the masses during the golden age of hip-hop in the late 80's to early 90's. However, Afrocentric rap, which can be described as a lyrical form that proudly celebrates the accomplishments of the Black community, past & present, in addition to voicing complaints, concerns, and/or social observations of the African American community from a firsthand perspective, has always been part and parcel of hip-hop.
Early popular examples would include 1982's "The Message" single on Sugar Hill by Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five feat. Melle Mel & Duke Bootee, while current day examples include the soon-to-drop 2011 album track "Clap" by Brooklyn emcee Saigon off his Feb 15th release The Greatest Story Never Told (Suburban Noize). Afrocentric rap has been with us from day one and will never go away. However, it may never return to the popularity of its heyday, a time when it was common to see rap videos on TV espousing politically charged, pro Black imagery and messages.
Afrocentric rap, as a distinct movement within hip-hop, occurred mainly from the late 80's to early 90's -- essentially within the broader, musically & lyrically diverse "golden age" of hip-hop which, depending on whom you ask, ran from around '87 or '88 up to '92 or '93. Lyrically, use of the traditional Muslim greeting "as-salaam alaikum" (peace to you) was commonplace in the music -- something that, in a pre 9/11 America, didn't raise too many eyebrows. In addition to pro Black lyrics, the use of politically charged samples (EG Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., The Last Poets, or even James Brown) was also commonplace. Visually, the colors of the Pan African flag -- red, black, and green -- were synonymous with popular Afrocentric rap. Album cover art, artists' clothing, song lyrics, and song/album titles weaved in these colors. In promoting DeLa Soul, Tommy Boy Records' promotion department made leather African medallions as promo items. They also styled Queen Latifah's promotion around Afrocentric imagery.
Other artists that conjured the essence of Afrocentric rap in its peak included, to name but a few, Public Enemy, BDP/KRS-One, X-Clan, Sister Souljah, Jungle Brothers, and Paris. But Afrocentric/conscious rap came in many shapes and forms and, just as in real life, most artists have more than one side to them. Schoolly D, NWA, Ice Cube, Ice T, Toddy Tee, The Geto Boys, and Cypress Hill are all artists who, as well as being hardcore/gangsta, also embodied elements of conscious Afrocentric rap. Too $hort, while written off as player/pimp styled rapper quick to drop the "B" word, also delivered a powerful Afrocentric anthem in his 1990 single "The Ghetto." The track is his emotionally charged, heartfelt, sad, and soulful blues-rooted rap tale of the struggles of "trying to survive...in the ghetto." Additonally, 2Pac, who, granted, came to fame afterthe Afrocentric movement as a trend had passed, was also a complex artist offering both blatantly sexist & gangsta messages and strong, militant Afrocentric perspectives.
The Rise and Fall of Afrocentric Rap as the Predominant Movement Within Hip-Hop