Did we declare K.Dots TPAB a "Pro Black" album or was it assigned for us?

[Piff Perkins]

The OP has spent 16 pages of a thread showing he has little understanding of pro-black music and peddling an explanation that is horribly limited.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The OP has spent 16 pages of a thread showing he has little understanding of pro-black music and peddling an explanation that is horribly limited.

Nah, that's you

 

[Wild self]

The OP has spent 16 pages of a thread showing he has little understanding of pro-black music and peddling an explanation that is horribly limited.

They always do that to artists that they hate. Kinda like how some white people force blacks into impossible odds and expect them to excel on them. The same people who are super critical on Kendrick are like when Future or Young Thug act dumb.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I guess the OP is going to say this wasn't a pro-black song either

"We're a Winner" is a 1967 single recorded by The Impressions for the ABC-Paramount label. Written and produced by Impressions lead singer Curtis Mayfield, the song is notable as one of the most prominent popular recordings dealing with the subject of black pride. The single peaked at number 14 on the Billboard Pop Chart, and was the number-one single on the Billboard R&B Chart during the week of March 1, 1968.[1]

The concept for "We're a Winner" came to Curtis Mayfield one night in a dream; the musician quickly woke himself and ran with his inspiration. The resulting song was an uplifting composition whose lyrics encouraged the listener that the time for self-pity is over, and that one should acknowledge his or her worth, even in the face of opposition. Intended as an inspirational song for the group's primarily African-American audiences, Mayfield urges his audience to "Keep on pushin'/like your leaders tell you to" - the "leaders" being figures involved in the American Civil Rights Movement such as Martin Luther King, Jr., Stokely Carmichael, and others. To accentuate the song's uplifting feel, "We're a Winner" was recorded with a live audience in the RCA Victor and Universal studios in the Impressions' homebase of Chicago, Illinois.

Although the Impressions had previously released inspiration singles such as "People Get Ready", "Keep on Pushing", and "Amen", those songs were more general and often more directly rooted in gospel music than "We're a Winner". Only a few other previous singles by other mainstream popular artists - most notably Sam Cooke's posthumous release "A Change is Gonna Come" - had attempted to directly address racial politics in America.

"We're a Winner", included on a 1968 Impressions LP of the same name, became a virtual anthem for the Civil Rights Movement, and its success resulted not only in similar follow-ups from the Impressions (among them "Choice of Colors" and "This is My Country"), but also marked the beginning of a trend towards increasing social consciousness in soul music. During and after "We're a Winner's" chart run in 1968, several other acts, including James Brown ("Say It Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud") and Sly & the Family Stone ("Everyday People") were releasing successful hits which directly addressed racial issues and black pride.

@CashmereEsquire

 

[Apollo Creed]

I guess the OP is going to say this wasn't a pro-black song either






@CashmereEsquire

You still going at this? I dismissed you when you were caping for Pro White Ideology.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Nah, that's you

nope

Brehs description means non vocal music (like jazz) can't be pro black. fukkouttahere with that shyt.

Supporting nationalism is NOT the defining mark of being pro-black.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You still going at this? I dismissed you when you were caping for Pro White Ideology.

you dodged my question

Pro-black for the most part is simply "be proud of your race" and black positivity.



^^are you going to deny that was a pro-black, song?

and why this poster was spot on

Funny how two of those songs don't fit the OP's description since they don't discuss black nationalism/economics


Yall militants trying way too hard and didn't even do your homework

 

[MeachTheMonster]

nope

Brehs description means non vocal music (like jazz) can't be pro black. fukkouttahere with that shyt.

Supporting nationalism is NOT the defining mark of being pro-black.

Well I don't know how you'd call music without words "pro-anything"

 

[Piff Perkins]

Well I don't know how you'd call music without words "pro-anything"

I disagree. Jazz has always been one of the most political and expressive American genres. Is there anything more pro-black than Miles Davis expressing the ingenuity and artistic brilliance of black people, born from the black experience, while deconstructing traditional western (white) musical norms?

 

[SirBiatch]

This thread is OP vs the ramblers

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I disagree. Jazz has always been one of the most political and expressive American genres. Is there anything more pro-black than Miles Davis expressing the ingenuity and artistic brilliance of black people, born from the black experience, while deconstructing traditional western (white) musical norms?

The music may be "black music" or "black culture"

But it's not "pro-black"

His words in interviews and his inspiration for the music may be pro-black. But the music itself is not.

"Pro" means to advocate for something. You need words to advocate.

Yall done jumped down the rabbit hole of stupidity with this jazz pro black=Kendrick nonsense

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

Uh huh.

Who are you listening to for make whites uncomfortable rap right now?

I'm late af
But he has yet to do that on an album
Albums don't have visuals

 

[Brofato]

Thats the thing, I`m saying K.Dot made a Soulful album yet people are FORCING it to be something it isn't.

I'm not a fan of Kendrick. His music does nothing for me but I have heard two songs from it.

This dikk Ain't Free is clearly a pro-black song. I actually enjoyed that song and its intentions were clear. I'm not sure if the other songs on the album are like that but if they are it's assigning it to itself.

 

[Mowgli]

I'm late af
But he has yet to do that on an album
Albums don't have visuals

You've yet to make whites uncomfortable with your posts

 

[Unknown Poster]

dude just a troll. He doesnt know what he is trying to argue. He will post "bu bu who is saying it is pro black?" then in the same instance dap post saying it is a Pro Black album. At this point it's just best to put him on ignore.

I did that back in September of last year. I legit have not seen a post from him since then.