blackestofpanthers
God forgives, you are forgiven.
Also, they don’t beat the 49ers any of those years without russ. Mobile QBs were our weakness, we sweep them every year if they have Matt Flynn or a brad Johnson type
Did y'all see Sherman throwing Russell Wilson under the bus to boost himself up?
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a telegraphed play Bill picked up on that the Pats D practiced against all week at that.
Cacs put Kurt Warner in the HOF who had one of the biggest falloffs in NFL history and also benefited from a historically "stacked" roster. They'll 100000% put Eli and Stafford in there as well.
But a 10x Pro Bowler and Superbowl Champion that has a Top 5 passer rating isn't worthy of being in there.
And nikkas act like Russ isn't a massive overacheiver and trailblazer either. 4th round QB who beat out the veteran the Seahawks handed $30m to in training camp and was a winning QB despite his height limitations.
Of the QBs drafted in the early 2010s, no one had a better career than him.
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AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Exactly. Russ catching all the blame and not Pete for calling that dumb ass play never sat right with me
I'm trying also to find the interview where Marshawn himself said Russ asked him about audibling to a run play and he (Marshawn) said no.
there's goofies out there who think Russell audibled from a run to a pass play.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
If I remember correctly, they ran that same exact play and scored a TD before halftime.
Malcolm Butler just made an amazing play.
I honestly think Russ could have walked in the endzone if they did a play action bootleg.
murksiderock
Superstar
The way you gotta look at this, is when did LOB stop being LOB?
The Legion Of Boom run was the greatest 6-year run ever; greatest 5-year run ever; greatest 4-year run ever; and so on. The only debatable thing about them, is are the '13 Hawks the greatest one year defense ever? They have a case but you can definitely make a case for other defenses on a 1-year run.
Once you start totaling the run, they separate from other historically great defenses, and they separate fast.
They were a Top 7 defense for 6 straight years, 2011-16. Right in the middle of that, 2012-15, they were the #1 defense in The League (#7 in 2011, #3 in 2016).
The run ended with the '16 Hawks. But it also started before Russ got there, and they only went 7-9 was Tavaris Jackson at QB in '11, with an elite defense. Unpolished Russ gets there and they gonna to two Super Bowls. When the run ends they only win one playoff game the rest of Russ' Seattle career.
Both sides deserve they flowers.
Exactly, and Russ was 10x the QB bytch ass Eli was. Far and away a better player.
And I'll keep mentioning NFL Media's love fest with Stat Padford as a Canton guy when he clearly is NOT, those '11, '14, and '16 Lions playoff teams Padford had were well good enough to win a playoff game and have some sustained success, but this guy did nothing with them besides end the playoff drought and start another
That ain't how you do it, Russ been washed for 4-5 years now, so encompassing the last 15 years paints an inaccurate picture.
His "prime" is his "era", was he one of the five greatest QBs in his era?
You could debate on the margins, sure, because Mahomes came up late in Russ' prime. Brady and Rodgers were great throughout his prime. Brees slipped at the end of Russ' prime, and Russ and Manning's prime never overlapped really.
Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, Brees. Who is #5 of Russ' prime (which I say is 2015-21)?
It's Russ.
Sherman is absolutely one of the greatest of his generation too, thougj.
If I remember correctly, they ran that same exact play and scored a TD before halftime.
Malcolm Butler just made an amazing play.
I honestly think Russ could have walked in the endzone if they did a play action bootleg.
That piece of
"#39" knew how to disrupt it from his days with the L.O.B. 
Devil Plisken…CMS
Veteran
Quite honestly I don’t know how to reconcile this. There’s been HOF level quarterbacks that didn’t get along with teammates but this shyt just seems belong the pale. He’s almost like the Dwight Howard of football. How much does that factor into the decision when we’re not talking about sure fire guy?
the fact you even said this proves he's an icon lol. love and hate...two sides of the same coin.
Arod has 4 MVPs
Favre had 3 MVPs
come on breh
murksiderock
Superstar
Fair enough but my point was on the Tony's "playing himself out The Hall" comment because of how poorly the end is going. Those guys had poor endings too (notwithstanding '09 Favre).
2011-16 Hawks had the following players, in a 6-year stretch.This. Sherman was great, but those LoB defenses were more stacked than a prime Cherokee D.
Literally, they had 2 all-pro safeties, Bobby Wagner, (including Sherman) 2 good-great corners, and I think them níggas had 2 pro bowlers on the D-line also.
All-Pros
Sherman (4x)
Wagner (3x)
Thomas (2x)
Kam (2x)
Pro Bowls
Thomas (5x)
Kam (4x)
Sherman (4x)
Wagner (3x)
Bennett (2x)
Browner
Avril
Wright
These guys put 8 players in the Pro Bowl in 6 years, that's 3 short of an entire defense. They put two defensive linemen, two linebackers, and four defensive backs in the Pro Bowl.
They had 4 guys who were multiple-time All-Pros.
It's unquestionably the greatest defense, and the greatest secondary, of all time.
@Based Lord Zedd Russ was an All-Pro in '19.
Pretty sure it was his shannon oneI'm trying also to find the interview where Marshawn himself said Russ asked him about audibling to a run play and he (Marshawn) said no.
there's goofies out there who think Russell audibled from a run to a pass play.
VegetasHairline
Veteran
I did a Google search trying to find it and he doesn't mention it in that interview. Just mentioned how he laughed in Pete Carroll's face. I think there's a Mandela Effect with that statement.
I'm just confirming that I remember the interview years back when Marshawn said Russ asked him if he wanted the ball and he said to run the play as called.
They were mad at Russ because they thought the coaches wanted him to be the hero. He didn't call the play so why be mad at him? Just shows the jealousy they had for him.
I've been saying that was the first play they should have ran at the goal line. Everyone knew the ball was going to Marshawn. If they faked it the entire defense collapses in the middle and Russ walks into the end zone untouched.
They were mad at Russ because they thought the coaches wanted him to be the hero. He didn't call the play so why be mad at him? Just shows the jealousy they had for him.
If I remember correctly, they ran that same exact play and scored a TD before halftime.
Malcolm Butler just made an amazing play.
I honestly think Russ could have walked in the endzone if they did a play action bootleg.
I've been saying that was the first play they should have ran at the goal line. Everyone knew the ball was going to Marshawn. If they faked it the entire defense collapses in the middle and Russ walks into the end zone untouched.