Did your grandfathers beat your grandmothers?

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You are correct, but not all women of course. With "traditional", I'm also referring to the overall thought that a woman NEEDS to be in a relationship to be valuable. You see it with insults like "That's why you don't have a man". Some women are opting to be single and I don't just see it "wrong" if a woman who has only seen negative relationships, chooses not to pursue one rather than use it as a lesson. Violent men will be violent men, regardless of their relationship status.
The problem with that 'solution' is that women don't really be single. They single officially but have 'friends' and, like you said, violent men will be violent.

As a woman, you're either gonna cloister yourself away with other women, completely out of the company of men, or you have to learn better discernment and relationship management.
 

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Y'all don't see the disconnect?
The disconnect is that some family lines pass down proper relationship management and others don't. In the internet era, you'd think that one group would learn from the other. Instead, the dysfunctional seem to be leading the conversation. Why not learn from those who get it right?
 

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This the thing tho fam. I get on here all the time. And it's BE THIS, DO THIS, if the general population could do it then those skills would be worthless. i ain't gonna front I love the coli. one reason is its a lot of smart people I'm in awe of. I'm 39 and it's nikkas out here killing it. young guys. Congrats. Black fist and all that. But I'm not that smart. and most people aren't either. so while yall shyt on these truck driving jobs, selling solar panels, doing xyz. I'm just here like ok, well thats nice an all. But what the fukk can i actually pull off to make some money. I ain't mad, I ain't hating. I'm just like give a nikka some advice.

1.Live at home with parents and save your money. Live with a roomate and live below your means.

2. Live in a van. Or if thats too much for you. Live in a van one week. Live in a hotel one week. Van 1 week,hotel one week. Hotels might be way more expensive now so who knows if that would help. But i know they used to have them 189$ for a week in a good location in ATL. Thats 400 a month on rent. Plus gas and food of course. But your not paying light,gas,electric,streaming services.



If you have children and a wife this will be less doable.


Most people dont need to hurt their heads trying to figure out money schemes. Waste time getting certs and schooling.Or starting so called black businesses, that the white man actually owns. Plus a good job will only make you stay in white supremacy. The idea is for black people to be as uncomfortable as possible so we will have no problem leaving the country. Plus it will make it easier to transition. To a country thats not a country of convienience like America is.
 

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The disconnect is that some family lines pass down proper relationship management and others don't. In the internet era, you'd think that one group would learn from the other. Instead, the dysfunctional seem to be leading the conversation. Why not learn from those who get it right?
Yes and no. I think we should definitely focus on positive role models and how they did it right, but some of the reasons why people end up in abusive situations is because they think they need to be in a relationship. That kind of thinking is a recipe for dysfunction. There are people thriving without relationships and there are people thriving in them, but too many women at the abuse shelters can tell you they held on so long because they felt like they were less valuable without a man on their arms, which is just sad.
 

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And this confession time thread is very intersting to say the least. Let thecoli tell it,there is no history of us as black men oppressing our women.


But from this thread it looks like #TheOpressionContiues:respect:
 

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Didn't know my grandfather on my father's side, but my old man told me that he and my grandmother used to fight. Like knock down drag out, house ransacking fights. My grandmother was a large woman about 5'9" 200lbs. She kicked him out when my father was 10, and that was that. My mothers father was an amazing dude, who never laid a hand on my grandmother. No matter what she did, he loved her. Sometimes to his own detriment. He was her peace, I can't say the same for her, but he did any, and everything he could for her.

Funny thing is with the exception of my mother that's been married to my father for 42 years, the rest seemed to loooooooove ain't shyt nikkas.
 

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Oh noooo. :russ:Oooh no.

We don’t play that shyt in our family. From the men Or the women.

Our great uncle was extirpated. He tried to control my great aunt by moving her into his mom’s home and getting her pregnant with three kids. Let’s just say, the shyt didn’t work out. He tried to lay hands on her. His mother tried to help.

My great uncle AND his mother BOTH got their asses beaten that day. Esther bit a piece out of his neck and beat his mother with a thick ass broom handle.:russ::russ::russ:

Let’s just say, if you hit us, you might as well kill us. If it’s worth your sorry ass life, then we’ll both start our spirit journeys together.:cheers: I ain’t NEVER seen or experienced ANYBODY gettin lumped up in my family. Male or female. Just keep yo hands to yoself. Because if I have to consider you a threat…in my HOME?! Sheeiiiiiiiiittttt. I’d be on the new season of SNAPPED.

That 12 gauge gon have you hittin that “I don’t feel so good Mr. Stark”
That’s one of the key things the men in my family taught me. If a man tries it, I’m fighting to the death. And as they say, “It would be a good death”. I’m very sweet and girlie so that can throw people off, because if you attempt to take it there you will see the fire in my eyes before you feel it. lol
I would literally be insulted if a man ever thought I would be the type to just stand there and be beaten.
I would always say “I wear stilettos for more than one reason”. 🤷🏾‍♀️
 

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but some of my great grandfathers had 5+ kids with their wives and then abandoned them once they moved up north to the big city. shorties had to be raised in orphanages and shelters and shyt bc at the time there wasn’t welfare and women had to work as maids for white folks which didn’t pay shyt

great grannys never remarried and years later once the nikkaz got old and their hoes left them they tried coming back to their families but it was too late…..:to:
 
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No abuse on either side. Both sides had pretty traditional households, they worked while my grandmothers took care of the kids. It's crazy because even though they didn't know each other before my parents met, they had a lot in common. Both of my grandfathers were from Louisiana and came to Texas and both had three kids. My maternal grandmother only started working after the kids were grown to have something to do outside of the house.
 

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I heard stories of my grandfather whooping people ass over minor disrespect. I would be surprised if he didn't beat his wife.
 
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My grandad kicked my grandmother down some stairs before they split up in the 80's apparently.

My grandparents on my father's side don't get physically but they argue ALL the time.
 

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I think we should definitely focus on positive role models and how they did it right, but some of the reasons why people end up in abusive situations is because they think they need to be in a relationship. That kind of thinking is a recipe for dysfunction

:russ: 'The lies!' Nobody right now is encouraging relationships. Where is all this social pressure to settle down?

People currently in relationships are there because they want to be. Instead of complaining about relationships you've chosen to participate in, do some work. Listen to ppl who do it right. This isn't complicated.
 

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Grandfather from father side died when my father was 8 :mjcry:

Grandfather from mother side loved his wife dearly. So dearly, he married a second wife with her:lolbron:

He tried going for a third one but the second one caused too much ruckus. Never hit any of them though
 

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:russ: 'The lies!' Nobody right now is encouraging relationships. Where is all this social pressure to settle down?

People currently in relationships are there because they want to be. Instead of complaining about relationships you've chosen to participate in, do some work. Listen to ppl who do it right. This isn't complicated.
:patrice: Dude, I think you're talking to the wrong person. My parents just celebrated their 50th anniversary and my father has never laid a hand on my mother or to my knowledge stepped out on her. I do volunteer for a battered women's shelter though so I've seen the dark side of people thinking they *have* to be in a relation to have value. So I have a pretty balanced idea about relationships both good and bad. Either way, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here.
 
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