did your opinion on jay z change aftre this beans interview?

[seemorecizzy]

Nah. I almost wanted to turn it off at the beginning when he said that he turned down the pro-keds deal on some "me being a team player" type shyt. That's why you got shytted on. Dame did that to you not Jay

Then he goes on to say how he went in on Jay because of something he said on the blueprint 3 about Dame "You already killed him, now you gonna stand over his body and spit in face ?" In-font of a guy (50) that does that type of shyt to people all the time

and to top it off you mad at a nikka for not wanting to be responsible for you and your whereabouts when you've already shown you cant even be responsible for your dam self ???

Its very likely that Jay was just through with this guy. Its easy to sympathize for the guys that end up on the losing end of the scenario. I have family members exactly like this that will ask for my help and once they receive it, they act like they "earned" it or " I could have done more for them" and once I say no then it turns into me being a foul dude.

Just sayin'

jay did what he did for one reason and one reason only
he was in the process of becoming european hov full time and didn't wanna do anything to mess up his dealings with the white folks
if dat was a couple years earlier, no way he says no,
same thing he did with freeway in a sense
jays ashamed to be around those guys if its effects his reputation in the white community

and dat dame line was just one example
the song already off blueprint 3 is a diss song/spit in the face to the entire roc a fella crew

 

[seemorecizzy]

You like the way Diddy did Shyne with different lawyers?

puff snakd shyne when it came down to it.
but im saying if the judge asked him what the judge asked hov, i don't see saying no

 

[Taadow]

Naw, my opinion on Jay changed when Roc La-Familia was shapin' up to be too hot of a compilation, so he changed it up to make it one of his albums.

...with a bandana on his head. Aight, Jiggs.

 

[Hypris]

People have called Jay-Z shady for years, nothing new. Doesn't stop me from enjoying some of his music.

 

[Da King]

Anyway this interview is old shyt I think Jay & Beans are on speaking terms again

Jigger disgusted to being so close to a negro

 

[Demon]

im still in awe that Jay-Z responded to Beans after he was locked up

where?

 

[Marciano]

I don't see how Jay is this so-called snake, I think the folk who are calling him that are the same ones that just plain don't like him, period.

Who remembers that MTV Diary of Jay-Z when they was in the club, Beans hopped over the gate to go after somebody for some reason & Jay had to get up and go after him? Matter fact, here's the clip starting at the 13:25. Any grown man would get tired of having to constantly babysit & look after another grown man

 

[L. Deezy]

this when i started questioning dudes character.

bu bu bu.. but surely you gonna throw 50 cent in the mix too for using Beans as a pawn and then letting him sink or nah??

Listen Beans was not a smart dude. Talented as hell on the mic, but not smart. Thats his fault

 

[wizworld]

Seriously when it comes to Jay-Z/Rocafella matters Beans, Peedi & maybe Jaz-O are like the only ones that I felt like they deserved the lion's share of the blame when their situations fell apart. They had character flaws that were bound to put them in bad positions no matter what.

 

[L. Deezy]

Seriously when it comes to Jay-Z/Rocafella matters Beans, Peedi & maybe Jaz-O are like the only ones that I felt like they deserved the lion's share of the blame when their situations fell apart. They had character flaws that were bound to put them in bad positions no matter what.

Preach

 

[Long Live The Kane]

what we can all agree was the 50 used Beans something serious, and then tossed him aside. Beans need to become a boss, and not a follower. smh.

Until the end of this video when he plugged the album I had completely forgot 50 was running around instigating this sh!t and flat out lying about signing Beans to G-Unit (that didn't even have distribution at the time)...all as an attention whoring publicity stunt for BISD...fif's a transcendent fukk nikka...his catalog of fukk boy moves is so deep he has classics like this that you fukk around and forget about

 

[L. Deezy]

what we can all agree was the 50 used Beans something serious, and then tossed him aside. Beans need to become a boss, and not a follower. smh.

oh.. didnt see this before I posted

 

[Harry B]

jay did what he did for one reason and one reason only
he was in the process of becoming european hov full time and didn't wanna do anything to mess up his dealings with the white folks
if dat was a couple years earlier, no way he says no,
same thing he did with freeway in a sense
jays ashamed to be around those guys if its effects his reputation in the white community

and dat dame line was just one example
the song already off blueprint 3 is a diss song/spit in the face to the entire roc a fella crew

Let's be honest here, Beans chose to go with Dame and Jay still fukked with him all they way up to around 07, 08.
At this time point Jay was fukking hard with people with worse "white" rep than Beans like Jeezy at the time, that was his main man.

Emory Jones just got out of prison for doing a long ass cocaine bid and Jay isn't seen anywhere without him.


There is no outside reasoning to why Jay doesn't fukk with Beans. There's a few people from the roc who don't fukk with him and a few people who do, it's not like he sat down, brainstormed and chose Peedi and Beans. What can be said without knowing any facts is that there's a lot of holes in Beans stories, all from first claiming that he chose Dame cause he never hung with Jay outside of business to claiming that Jay was his older brother. Yapping about money to saying he only wanted a conversation to then turning around again and saying Dame owned him 9 figures. And it goes on.

But Jay doesn't speak about these type of matters so there's not really anything to say about his stories.

 

[Jayson_bourn]

jay did what he did for one reason and one reason only
he was in the process of becoming european hov full time and didn't wanna do anything to mess up his dealings with the white folks
if dat was a couple years earlier, no way he says no,
same thing he did with freeway in a sense
jays ashamed to be around those guys if its effects his reputation in the white community

and dat dame line was just one example
the song already off blueprint 3 is a diss song/spit in the face to the entire roc a fella crew

Yeah, but you don't know any of that stuff for sure. Beans also admitted that Dame literally stole from him. This coming from the guy that sided with Dame during the Roc split. Now he's sitting there telling the story to a guy (50) who also used and discarded him. Why isn't there a "foot" on Dames neck for stealing? how about a foot on 50s for using him? This guy just makes bad decisions man. I understand its prison and you wish that upon no one. I get that.

My point was when you complain about not getting help in a situation like that it implies that you feel entitled to it. I feel like you can only ask life long friends and family members to do something like that, and even if you do ask them you HAVE to know that you're putting them in a tough position. I'm just bringing logic to the argument, it swings both ways

The person that doesn't want to take responsibility for someone who can't seem to stay out of trouble is selfish

The person expected that sort of help given his own past AND the situation being placed upon the person he is asking is also selfish

shyt, if I asked my grandma to cosign for a car loan she'd probably tell me no. She absolutely wouldn't take responsibility for me from a legally if asked and that's my blood.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Let's be honest here, Beans chose to go with Dame and Jay still fukked with him all they way up to around 07, 08.
At this time point Jay was fukking hard with people with worse "white" rep than Beans like Jeezy at the time, that was his main man.

Emory Jones just got out of prison for doing a long ass cocaine bid and Jay isn't seen anywhere without him.


There is no outside reasoning to why Jay doesn't fukk with Beans. There's a few people from the roc who don't fukk with him and a few people who do, it's not like he sat down, brainstormed and chose Peedi and Beans.

jeezy does not have a worse rep than sigel
sigel had murder charges and was signed by jay, and was in jays crew
jay got jeezy when he became president of def jam, and for the normal listener, hes just another rapper talking about crack all the time'


emory is a bad example. he just got out the other day, and the avg person doesn't even know how the hell he is