did your opinion on jay z change aftre this beans interview?

[Wacky D]

Nah, all I'm sayin is the focus is on a nikka that hurt his feelins instead of a nikka that hurt his pockets.

what focus? he aired them BOTH out.

if youre talking about the rapping bit, REAL MCs dont go in on non-rappers on the mic like that.

that sucka chit is from the jay-z school of thought.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Yeah, but you don't know any of that stuff for sure. Beans also admitted that Dame literally stole from him. This coming from the guy that sided with Dame during the Roc split. Now he's sitting there telling the story to a guy (50) who also used and discarded him. Why isn't there a "foot" on Dames neck for stealing? how about a foot on 50s for using him? This guy just makes bad decisions man. I understand its prison and you wish that upon no one. I get that.

My point was when you complain about not getting help in a situation like that it implies that you feel entitled to it. I feel like you can only ask life long friends and family members to do something like that, and even if you do ask them you HAVE to know that you're putting them in a tough position. I'm just bringing logic to the argument, it swings both ways

The person that doesn't want to take responsibility for someone who can't seem to stay out of trouble is selfish

The person expected that sort of help given his own past AND the situation being placed upon the person he is asking is also selfish

shyt, if I asked my grandma to cosign for a car loan she'd probably tell me no. She absolutely wouldn't take responsibility for me from a legally if asked and that's my blood.

the word entitled makes it sound like a bad thing
but really its just loyalty
jay was pumping that family shyt to beans and the rest of dem roc nikkas when it was convient for him, and then acts like it was just business when he leaves.

granny is granny. car loans aint important
highly doubt she gonna let you go back to jail if she can do something to prevent it
but what do i no

 

[Harry B]

jeezy does not have a worse rep than sigel
sigel had murder charges and was signed by jay, and was in jays crew
jay got jeezy when he became president of def jam, and for the normal listener, hes just another rapper talking about crack all the time'


emory is a bad example. he just got out the other day, and the avg person doesn't even know how the hell he is

The average person? There was plenty of stories on more newspapers than Beanie Sigel has every featured on about Jay-z writing letters to judges asking if they can release a guy who ran a drug ring. He's an executive at roc-a-wear now.

Jeezy not bad rep? People claim that he was a member of one of the biggest drug cartels in the US during the 2000s.
He has been mentioned in murder cases, cocaine cases and is known as a former drug dealer. This is the person Jay-z chose to celebrate the inauguration with right after he'd been to the actual inauguration with the president.

I don't think he gives two fukk about it, I can keep on mentioning more cats if you want to.
One cat who actually raps but is completely unknown for rapping and more for robbing people, stabbing people, shooting at people etc is..

 

[Wacky D]

I don't see how Jay is this so-called snake, I think the folk who are calling him that are the same ones that just plain don't like him, period.

Who remembers that MTV Diary of Jay-Z when they was in the club, Beans hopped over the gate to go after somebody for some reason & Jay had to get up and go after him? Matter fact, here's the clip starting at the 13:25. Any grown man would get tired of having to constantly babysit & look after another grown man

maybe you should do a background check on the clip that youre posting.

beans did all that to protect jay.

jay knew the dudes that was poppin chit.

 

[Marciano]

maybe you should do a background check on the clip that youre posting.

beans did all that to protect jay.

jay knew the dudes that was poppin chit.

Maybe you should view the clip. Jay was sitting down & he sees Beans, in the distance, hop the gate because Beans felt somebody threw a drink on him, not Jay.

Ya'll dudes really make yourselves look foolish

 

[Wacky D]

The average person? There was plenty of stories on more newspapers than Beanie Sigel has every featured on about Jay-z writing letters to judges asking if they can release a guy who ran a drug ring. He's an executive at roc-a-wear now.

Jeezy not bad rep? People claim that he was a member of one of the biggest drug cartels in the US during the 2000s.
He has been mentioned in murder cases, cocaine cases and is known as a former drug dealer. This is the person Jay-z chose to celebrate the inauguration with right after he'd been to the actual inauguration with the president.

I don't think he gives two fukk about it, I can keep on mentioning more cats if you want to.
One cat who actually raps but is completely unknown for rapping and more for robbing people, stabbing people, shooting at people etc is..

youre killing your own argument.

youre posting pics with tru life, when jay basically just used him as a pawn in the dipset chit. and then he threw him away like stale bread after he got what he wanted.

you mean the same jeezy that obama shouted out? if jeezy wasnt "hot at the moment", you think jay would be rubbing shoulders with him? get real.

 

[Wacky D]

Maybe you should view the clip. Jay was sitting down & he sees Beans, in the distance, hop the gate because Beans felt somebody threw a drink on him, not Jay.

Ya'll dudes really make yourselves look foolish

i dont have to view the clip. i have that whole episode on VHS actually.

so if somebody throws a drink at you, what the f*ck are you gonna do? stand there like a bi*ch?

and it might not have been the same people that threw the drink on beans(probably not) but there was static in there the whole time because of dehaven & them. thats jay's chit.

 

[DontEemTry]

what focus? he aired them BOTH out.

if youre talking about the rapping bit, REAL MCs dont go in on non-rappers on the mic like that.

that sucka chit is from the jay-z school of thought.

This nikka was tawmbout puttin out a whole album dissin Jay-Z. You forgot the whole "I got my foot on his neck" shyt?

LOL

Anyway, Beans is done. And truthfully, he only has himself to blame. Say you what you want about how wack these new kids are, but one thing I respect about them is they grind on their own without whining about what the next man not doin for them.

 

[Jayson_bourn]

the word entitled makes it sound like a bad thing
but really its just loyalty
jay was pumping that family shyt to beans and the rest of dem roc nikkas when it was convient for him, and then acts like it was just business when he leaves.

granny is granny. car loans aint important
highly doubt she gonna let you go back to jail if she can do something to prevent it
but what do i no

Lmao true. You do get what i'm saying though right? I see your points about Jay saying it was a family you're right, he did say those things. My only issue is that the dealings with Dame and the Roc split and the fact that he sided with Dame during that would lead me to believe that he knew what it was (just business) and if he didn't know that then he should have because every indication was there.

Edit : Also I think something should also be brought up is the way beans presented the story. He made it seem like the judge asked this question to see what type of dude Jay is and I don't think that's the full story. Its likely that the judged asked Jay that question because Jay went up there and bigged up beanie about how great he was in etc.

So the judge was like oh yeah? he's that great? would you take complete responsibility for him if I were to let him go today? oh? you wont?

I see... but he's so great though, right?

 

[Wacky D]

Seriously when it comes to Jay-Z/Rocafella matters Beans, Peedi & maybe Jaz-O are like the only ones that I felt like they deserved the lion's share of the blame when their situations fell apart. They had character flaws that were bound to put them in bad positions no matter what.

jaz-o tho? i dont know about that one.

yea peedi f*cked up.

and my thing with beans is, you went thru it once, so why go back a second time? i think freeway or somebody said that.

This nikka was tawmbout puttin out a whole album dissin Jay-Z. You forgot the whole "I got my foot on his neck" shyt?

LOL

Anyway, Beans is done. And truthfully, he only has himself to blame. Say you what you want about how wack these new kids are, but one thing I respect about them is they grind on their own without whining about what the next man not doin for them.

dog, did you even read my last post?

or is your cape getting in the way again?

 

[wizworld]

jaz-o tho? i dont know about that one.

yea peedi f*cked up.

and my thing with beans is, you went thru it once, so why go back a second time? i think freeway or somebody said that.

Listen to the Combat Jack show with Sauce Money it gives some good insight on why Jaz is where he is.

 

[DontEemTry]

jaz-o tho? i dont know about that one.

yea peedi f*cked up.

and my thing with beans is, you went thru it once, so why go back a second time? i think freeway or somebody said that.


dog, did you even read my last post?

or is your cape getting in the way again?

Yeah I did, I thought this wasn't about rap though

Oh it's about rap? Then Beans won the battle

 

[Wacky D]

Anyway, Beans is done. And truthfully, he only has himself to blame. Say you what you want about how wack these new kids are, but one thing I respect about them is they grind on their own without whining about what the next man not doin for them.

most of the new kids that are actually on are nothin but corporate label puppets and/or pillow biters.

put it together.

Yeah I did, I thought this wasn't about rap though
Oh it's about rap? Then Beans won the battle

you dont get it.

nevermind b.

 

[wizworld]

"Average Cat" is still FIRE though. I just wish Beans never said the line about "Saying things that make B look at you different". If I had a falling out with another man I'd NEVER think to try to ruin his relationship/marriage. That's damn near blackmail. I think Beans might have nailed his own coffin shut with that line.

 

[Truality]

obama is a piece of shyt for supporting jay-z