diet is the fuel for the car lol. Ultimately this entire convo is idiotic because it boils down to goals
Right, it boils down to goals. Exercise is great for strength, muscle/aesthetics, energy, mental health and staying sharp as people age out of their 40s.
Exericse alone isn't effective for fat loss as it's tremendously difficult to maintain a caloric deficit through exercise on a consistent basis, assuming no regards to diet.
But a person that focuses on diet and maintains a diet will always lose weight, so dieting is a surer bet for fat loss than exercise, but not necessarily the fastest or healthiest method in comparison to resistance training/cardio + diet.
On paper exercise and dieting are the best combo for fat loss. But the reality is they are two completely separate habits to build and maintain for lifelong health and fitness.
There really shouldn't be a thread for something so obvious.