Disney is seeking original IPs to win back Gen-Z Men amid Marvel and Lucasfilm Struggles

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Breh come on her producer credits history is extensive, it seemed like a no brainer when she got hired

breh I never cared about producers and didnt really start knowing about popular ones until recently, Directors tend to have been who were historically important/most known. I feel we started caring about Produers when MCU got hot with Fiege.
 

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Remember they said that the original story was that Goku was supposed to be dead and stay dead at the end of the Cell Saga. But the fans were in such an uproar about it the brought him back and put Gohan on jobber status ever since then :francis: :scust:

Haha yea, that’s what I was referring to.

Looking back, it makes perfect sense how/why he kept sidelining Goku and subtly back-dooring Gohan into the forefront from the onset of dbz

i.e.
  • the head-butt vs Raditz to grab our attention;
  • then sidelining/killing off Goku so Gohan could have his training arc with Piccolo,
  • sidelining Goku again so Gohan can take center stage in the Namek saga,
  • sidelining Goku yet again so Gohan headlines that Garlic Jr filler arc.
  • Sidelining again so Gohan is earth’s last great hero in the History of Trunks
  • And ofc the eventual swerve in the Cell Games/handing of the baton

I think his unintentional error was he made/kept Goku as too much of a cool big brother figure with all the power fantasy perks for too long, so kids naturally gravitated to him more than Gohan. Hell, sidelining him all the time just made ppl anticipate his return more :dead:
 

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breh I never cared about producers and didnt really start knowing about popular ones until recently, Directors tend to have been who were historically important/most known. I feel we started caring about Produers when MCU got hot with Fiege.

Ok and? It does not matter if YOU care or not the industry does, you asked a question and it got answered. Your ignorance of her history does not erase the accomplishments she has in film.
 

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Here is an Idea , Dragon Ball is in the middle of a battle between 3 companies for creative control of the franchise step in buy it off and try not to fukk it up. Gen Z is into Streaming ,Video Games and Anime. Start buying off anime studios that are in the middle of financial battles.
 

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But I love Star Wars but hate how they're tied to the Skywalker era and won't move on because the OG fans refuse to let another story or protagonist take the spotlight

Bruh, people have been begging them to move on. It's plenty of other good stories out there that have nothing to do with the Skywalkers they could tell. But Kathleen Kennedy herself came out and said theatrical Star Wars will only focus on the Skywalkers. Which is why she renamed Rey to a Skywalker at the end of the last movie.

This shyt is terrible.

The best material they have shot in decades, Andor, didn't have a Jedi, lightsaber, sith, none of that. And the fans love it.

Kathleen Kennedy and John Favreau are terrified of moving on. They will stay in the current sandbox until they are forcibly removed because it's easy and safe.

Kathleen Kennedy has to go!
 

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-Acquired Marvel Comics and Star Wars because they have trouble appealing to boys/male and wanted to lock down that demographic

-Immediately pivoted to pandering to girls/females, a demographic they have always had locked down to begin with, all the while chastising and admonishing males, alienating both the established fanbases and younger potential newcomers

-Do this for a decade or so, just to be back at square one, and arguably in worse position en vogue and/or financially

-Proceed to act shocked by the results
KNOW YOUR fukkIN AUDIENCE
 

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Ok and? It does not matter if YOU care or not the industry does, you asked a question and it got answered. Your ignorance of her history does not erase the accomplishments she has in film.

so sounds like a bum who took credit for group project work being that everything she did solo was pure ass
 

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1. Disney+ - Disney want Marvel to pump out much content as they can irrespective of quality. So trash like Secret Invasion gets released.
2. Letting LGBT writers and misandrists into the writers/production room - Comic book movies are essentially action movies, people don't watch them to see an emasculated/incompetent male lead action hero.
3. They lost Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther and The Russos and didn't replace them immediately with the X-MEN and a good director.

Deadpool 3 will be good as it's not a real Disney produced movie but that's it :yeshrug:

They have LGBT writers and misandrists in the writing room.

That is the REAL PROBLEM.


:whistle:
 

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4. Gen Z do NOT CARE about the mcu

Gen Z don't give a damn about these movies.

MCU is making money off Gen X and millennials.

This is why I doubt the whole "Secret Wars will reset everything" because Gen Z aren't suddenly going to be interested and a reset could easily turn off Gen X/Millennials who have not abandoned the mcu post endgame.

:whistle:



@King Static X I thought Gen Z were watching these flicks? :whistle:
 

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Disney, after ruining TWO franchises that were tailor made for young men, are finally and begrudgingly admitting that "Ok we have an issue gaining/retaining young men" and when you bring up the obvious reasons why nikkas still in here on some NAH THAT AIN'T IT :mjlol:

Selling stories to boys is easier than making a bread sandwich yet Disney, again having two already established young male endearing franchises, fukked it up:mjlol: You can't turn the boy stories into girl stories then expect things to stay the same. This has been discussed at length for years in the Film Room

But Disney is going to learn nothing, and at worst is gonna buy and destroy another young male franchise and nikkas still gonna mental gymnastics every reason but the one that matters:mjlol::manny:
 

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I thought what they were doing was deliberate

they were so good at making trash movies, it had to be on purpose right
 

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Kid with a sword and a plucky side kick with a mentor that dies and serves as motivation for him eventually beating the villain.

Any variation of that (in space, etc) and you’ll have what you need.
 
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