DJ Burn One on A$AP Rocky: "None of the producers will ever see a cent"

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Rocky toured all across the country off of that mixtape and was getting paid obviously ... if that was me I would have done like the Eagles did to Frank Ocean’s ass and banned him from using my song on tour .... like nikka if you not cashing me out for my product ain’t no performing my shyt on stage and getting your chips up talking about “well I can’t pay you because this mixtape was free!!! Lol!!!” fukk that ...these producers better start getting savvy and leasing out beats for only certain periods of time and for certain useages
 

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Does he have a copyright on the music? Is money being generated from the music? If he answered yes to both of these questions then he needs to lawyer up.
 

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i got a feeling rocky was signed when that shyt dropped.
I didn't know about industry plant stuff back then but I knew something was going on. I kept seeing his name on blogs and whatnot to the point where I went and checked for the song they kept hyping up. I literally thought I would be blown away by what I was going to hear. (lol I really did) It was alright at best. Whatever he had going on definitely wasn't organic. I don't remember the name of the song but it wasn't some undeniable hit record. It just sounded like he was biting the Houston wave that was still poppin' at the time.
 

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I don’t know what kind of arrangement they had but yeah, dudes need to stop working on handshakes and get their business in order.

These nikkas is not your bros or your friends.

It’s all business.
The problem is that alot of times there is no business to begin with. Two broke dudes come together and make art out of the love. Let's say a free mixtape. Next thing you know it takes off and the industry wants to sign who? The artist or the producer? THE ARTIST! The producer is then left out of the equation while the artist blows up.
 

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Broke boy shoulda got a autograph instead giving fukkk ass away beats

Next time put give placement in ya taxes p*ssy.


Besides it's karma for the carter 3 leaks fukkkk Dj burnone an entitled cac bootlegger
 

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I didn't know about industry plant stuff back then but I knew something was going on. I kept seeing his name on blogs and whatnot to the point where I went and checked for the song they kept hyping up. I literally thought I would be blown away by what I was going to hear. (lol I really did) It was alright at best. Whatever he had going on definitely wasn't organic. I don't remember the name of the song but it wasn't some undeniable hit record. It just sounded like he was biting the Houston wave that was still poppin' at the time.

The nikka had write ups on every single music blog from Pitchfork to Nahright to AllHipHop the day he dropped his very first song.

There was no buildup at all.

One day nobody knew he existed, the next day his name is ringing all over the internet.

The song was Purple Swag
 
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I totally agree, but here's the problem: Rocky went to established producers to appeal to the average so-called hip hop fan who wanted that watered down shyt. Kinda like how y'all were hyping that 1 Train mediocrity (produced by Hit-boy) while previously shytting on Live.Love.ASAP. Fans of Live.Love.ASAP wanted a continuation of Live.Love.ASAP on a bigger platform. I couldn't wait to hear Clams/Beautiful Lou/Ty Beats/SGP on radio. But it didn't happen because most of y'all love that generic shyt.

That to me is the real discussion. How a new producer can give you a creative unique sound and still lose out because you/your label wanna cash out on the next release.



I disagree. That's not fair at all. In fact, having your attitude will kill meaningful collaborations in future. When you're starting out, you often have to give people stuff for free or near free to get things going. You should be compensated fairly for it if it starts poppin.



producers are carrying rappers like never before. Producers have always carried rappers but this era's on a whole other level.

A mixtape is free work. That’s already established. U can’t make money from zero revenue.

How exactly will a producer get paid, logistically?

Explain that paperwork to me?
 

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i got a feeling rocky was signed when that shyt dropped.

He was signed before that :what: It was common knowledge.

In fact, the marketing was "who is this kid Rocky who just got signed for 3 mil?" This was at least a month before Live.Love.ASAP came out, if not many months. I'm not even sure the video for "Peso" was out yet. If you read the reviews for Live.Love.ASAP by 'internet tastemakers', the vast majority of the reviewers were talking about Rocky's deal. Everyone knew about his deal.

The artist being signed is actually the issue because it's the labels saying "yo, this is just a mixtape so we aint paying". And the producer decides to work with the artist because the artist is signed (which means there will be some money made somewhere and there is clout), then the label decides to release the music and the producer ends up feeling fukked. This is exactly what the Shabba producer was talking about.

I didn't know about industry plant stuff back then but I knew something was going on. I kept seeing his name on blogs and whatnot to the point where I went and checked for the song they kept hyping up. I literally thought I would be blown away by what I was going to hear. (lol I really did) It was alright at best. Whatever he had going on definitely wasn't organic. I don't remember the name of the song but it wasn't some undeniable hit record. It just sounded like he was biting the Houston wave that was still poppin' at the time.

y'all stay forcing it. Rocky never pretended to be independent while signed as a way to boost his project - that's what a plant does. The first time I heard about Rocky was when the media announced he had a 3 mil deal or was about to sign for major money, and people were like: "who?!" Purple Swag may have been the only record out. Peso might've been out. But I'm 100% sure the deal stuff came before Live.Love.ASAP debuted.

ASAP Rocky Signs to a Major Label

Because it was announced he was. :heh:
That's what created most of the hype for his mixtape.

These dudes is shytposters. Always trying to force the 'plant' label outta jealousy.

We all knew he was signed before the mixtape came out. That was the point :russ:

In fact, it was refreshing to see someone keep it a 100 and just release the music so it speaks for itself.
 

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I totally agree, but here's the problem: Rocky went to established producers to appeal to the average so-called hip hop fan who wanted that watered down shyt. Kinda like how y'all were hyping that 1 Train mediocrity (produced by Hit-boy) while previously shytting on Live.Love.ASAP. Fans of Live.Love.ASAP wanted a continuation of Live.Love.ASAP on a bigger platform. I couldn't wait to hear Clams/Beautiful Lou/Ty Beats/SGP on radio. But it didn't happen because most of y'all love that generic shyt.
:camby: miss me with all that "yall" shyt because i have the same exact opinion as you do in this post, 1 train was super trash and one of the WOAT verses from kdot

Can't even have a discussion cuz nikkas like you creatin fake narratives in ya post to make a point. Ya whole post was based on "yall" and im not even a part of that group

The industry did what it does in every other medium, replaced the unknown x factor that the people are rocking with, with a proven mainstream name. I know what it is cuz i see it in film now.


This nikka @PLUG tryna say he should've leveraged his hype.....nikka that's what he was TRYING to do, attempting to use his connect with rocky to get a placement on the retail album, wouldnt that have been the most logical choice for him at that moment? He didnt expect a winning formula to be tossed to the side for that trash ass debut rocky made and he's obviously still reeling from that

He need to move on tho
 

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He was signed before that :what: It was common knowledge.

In fact, the marketing was "who is this kid Rocky who just got signed for 3 mil?" This was at least a month before Live.Love.ASAP came out, if not many months. I'm not even sure the video for "Peso" was out yet. If you read the reviews for Live.Love.ASAP by 'internet tastemakers', the vast majority of the reviewers were talking about Rocky's deal. Everyone knew about his deal.

The artist being signed is actually the issue because it's the labels saying "yo, this is just a mixtape so we aint paying". And the producer decides to work with the artist because the artist is signed (which means there will be some money made somewhere and there is clout), then the label decides to release the music and the producer ends up feeling fukked. This is exactly what the Shabba producer was talking about.



y'all stay forcing it. Rocky never pretended to be independent while signed as a way to boost his project - that's what a plant does. The first time I heard about Rocky was when the media announced he had a 3 mil deal or was about to sign for major money, and people were like: "who?!" Purple Swag may have been the only record out. Peso might've been out. But I'm 100% sure the deal stuff came before Live.Love.ASAP debuted.



These dudes is shytposters. Always trying to force the 'plant' label outta jealously.

We all knew he was signed before the mixtape came out. That was the point :russ:

In fact, it was refreshing to see someone keep it a 100 and just release the music so it speaks for itself.
Facts, i remeber this was late 2011 or sumn, purple swag did numbers, peso just dropped. Then the 3 mil blog posts and mixtape dropped all within like 2 months

They never pretended he was indie
 

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how many times will dumb nikkas refuse to sign contracts before doing the work? Can't feel sympathy
when u not that big
u tryna impress the artist while also getting revenue
but u dont have the backing, lawyers on retainer or know how to make sure you're not robbed
 

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Rocky is a messed up person. He didn't only not pay this dude but he also fukked over Space Ghost Purp after running with his sound.

If it wasn't for the producers and ASAP Yams he wouldn't be where he is now cause he is not an amazing rapper like that tbh. With that said he is making big money now so he could afford to at least pay those producers from his first project a little something for their work. I mean cmon, you came up off of their work so he could at least look out for them.
 
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