DJ Quik says he deserves to be where Dr Dre is

[MurderToCassette]

There are Hip Hop producers who do a lot by themselves, but are hardly recognized and even dismissed by Hip Hop heads. Salaam Remi plays instruments and even has conducted orchestras. He's ample his own compositions. He helped The Fugees establish their sound and produced some of Nas's biggest and best songs. Is Salaam ever mentioned among elite producers? Rarely does he use co-producers. Andre 3000 is another example. He pretty much produced all of Love Below and played instruments on that album. He's even produced for other artists. Nobody's putting Andre 3000 on the same level as a Dr. Dre.

Salaam doesn't even trip off people not giving him due respect. He does the records and keeps it moving.

Quik has 30+ years of solo and outside production. Comparing Andre 3000 to DJ Quik off the strength of one album and some outside production doesn't really warrant comparison.

Salaam is a dope producer, he get's plenty of acclaim and is a grammy winner. He got his proper due. Quik's issue is not getting credit for the tracks he touched

DX:: Speaking of that era, I was just listening to all the leaked demo recordings from [2Pac’s] All Eyez on Me. And man, I can’t believe how much you polished up that album.
DJ Quik: Yeah, man! I did it in two days. I put a spit shine on them records. When the tapes went up, I went right to work. I dialed them bytches in like Pop records.

DX: I just know “Skandalouz” wouldn’t be the classic it is without the talk box [you added to it].
DJ Quik: Yeah, I touched [that record]. I had my boy, Cornelius Mims, play bass on it. That was Daz [Dillinger]’s beat. Daz shot it to me and I really made it a record that they wouldn’t have to clear a sample with. I played Rhodes [electric piano] on there too. I was coming.
DX: How did it happen that you even came to be adding those extra synths to “Heaven Ain’t Hard 2 Find,” and basically remaking “Thug Passion” into the fully funked out track it became?
DJ Quik: It was because they gave me freedom in there. Suge [Knight] was like, “Do you.” I was like, “Okay. Put the tapes up. Get me an engineer that’ll run for me, patch wires for me, go back to the wall. Get me coffee and I’m good.”



All this sounds like what Dre would get co-production credit for, but Quik gets no credit at all?

 

[JustCKing]

Quik has 30+ years of solo and outside production. Comparing Andre 3000 to DJ Quik off the strength of one album and some outside production doesn't really warrant comparison.

Salaam is a dope producer, he get's plenty of acclaim and is a grammy winner. He got his proper due. Quik's issue is not getting credit for the tracks he touched

DX:: Speaking of that era, I was just listening to all the leaked demo recordings from [2Pac’s] All Eyez on Me. And man, I can’t believe how much you polished up that album.
DJ Quik: Yeah, man! I did it in two days. I put a spit shine on them records. When the tapes went up, I went right to work. I dialed them bytches in like Pop records.

DX: I just know “Skandalouz” wouldn’t be the classic it is without the talk box [you added to it].
DJ Quik: Yeah, I touched [that record]. I had my boy, Cornelius Mims, play bass on it. That was Daz [Dillinger]’s beat. Daz shot it to me and I really made it a record that they wouldn’t have to clear a sample with. I played Rhodes [electric piano] on there too. I was coming.
DX: How did it happen that you even came to be adding those extra synths to “Heaven Ain’t Hard 2 Find,” and basically remaking “Thug Passion” into the fully funked out track it became?
DJ Quik: It was because they gave me freedom in there. Suge [Knight] was like, “Do you.” I was like, “Okay. Put the tapes up. Get me an engineer that’ll run for me, patch wires for me, go back to the wall. Get me coffee and I’m good.”



All this sounds like what Dre would get co-production credit for, but Quik gets no credit at all?

Salaam is still hardly as acclaimed as most Hip Hop producers. I am not talking about Grammys. He doesn't get his respect for someone who plays instruments, produces, writes music, and has composed with an orchestra.

Andre 3000 has done more than just Love Below. There's Kast songs he's co-produced and produced as well. And I wasn't comparing them to Quik or Dr. Dre. I was pointing out that he does a lot by himself, but it doesn't necessarily entitle him to be listed among elite producers as you're making an argument for Quik being able to play instruments and being able to do all these things by himself entitles him to have equal footing with Dre.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

No 50 was too good of a songwriter not to strike hot at one point, he’s closer to Ja Rule than he is a Papoose.

Where has his songwriting ability gone the past 15 years?

He had one big record & a bunch of meh since

Is he? Where's the next Chronic, Doggystyle, or 2001 been hiding for the last two decades then? Quik has dropped 5 great to classic solo albums since 2000.



This is such a tired ass comparison. If you really want to go there, has Dre composed symphonies for orchestras or written entire film scores? This is just the go to comparison cause they see Dre as a "director" who "takes things to the next level". Except he's been called out so many times for having ghost producers and he doesn't write rhymes either, so you can't really say what else he does.

He already made his Chronic, Doggystyle, and 2001.

How many artists in any genre are as good in their 50s as they were in their 20s?

It's a ridiculous expectation.

It'd be like discounting Stevie Wonder because he's not making "Songs In The Key of Life" today.

He already made it.

Quik aint got no "Straight Out of Compton" "nikkaz4Life" "Chronic" "Doggystyle" or "2001", though

He don't have any records that are gonna go down as top 20 Hip-Hop records of all-time.

Dre arguably has 4 or 5.

I'm not even arguing that Quik's modern discography isn't better.

I'm saying it doesn't matter at this point.

Nobody cares what Dre or Quik do in their 40s, 50s and 50s.

They wanna hear "Nutthin' But A G Thang" and "Just Lyke Compton" when they see them

 

[FreshAIG]

All the Smoke Podcast coming up

 

[Boonapalist]

All the Smoke Podcast coming up

It’s funny to me that Magic associates with hip hop more than MJ and Magic’s older.

 

[Deltron]

that doggystyle jacket is dope

 

[FreshAIG]

It’s funny to me that Magic associates with hip hop more than MJ and Magic’s older.

Especially considering how big the Jordan brand (clothes and him as a player) is in Hip Hop.

 

[Boonapalist]

Especially considering how big the Jordan brand (clothes and him as a player) is in Hip Hop.

Magic all in the camera on cruises with LL while Jordan didn’t even know who Rakim was. And I forgot Magic put out that random list of his favorites to

 

[010101]

collaboration is key..........*

 

[jerzboy]

I fuk with quik but his music is too regional. He’s def as talented but Dre knew how to make music the world would love. Shyt, even quirk’s beat on “justify my thug” gets heat fir being the wackest beat on the black album, most east coast dudes couldn’t fuk with beat; and I personally love that song and beat.

 

[Greenhornet]

alot of juelzing and goal post moving in here

you can try to deflect and argue your way out of shyt

but the answer is the machine ... Quik isnt part of the top tier machine like Dre always was


all that "producer" "beatmaker" "success" bullshyt is subjective and redundant
you are only as big as the machine thats behind you... whether you make good beats, produce amazingly or what not
eminem sells 10 million on his Greatest hits while trying to bomb it by shoving gerbils in his a$$hole on a song

if he's not signed to a machine and marketed well... he's not gonna do that or sustain accountability



its no different than why Kool G Rap wasnt marketed at the level of Silk Da Shocker
its not "producers" or "artist talent" its the machine behind you ... you can name a million rappers or beatmakers who just dont have the top 3 machine's in business behind them and came up regularly

 

[Guvnor]

He put Mauseberg on....I know David personally....he didn't put Suga Free on but is behind alot of his music....alot of you may not even know what he has been behind....he has some issues though and that's all I'm gonna say and that may be why his status in this hip hop game was never elevated....

Mental or Ego issues? or is it drugs?

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

It’s funny to me that Magic associates with hip hop more than MJ and Magic’s older.

Jordan's a country ass bamma.

Magic is from more urban Lansing.

alot of juelzing and goal post moving in here

you can try to deflect and argue your way out of shyt

but the answer is the machine ... Quik isnt part of the top tier machine like Dre always was


all that "producer" "beatmaker" "success" bullshyt is subjective and redundant
you are only as big as the machine thats behind you... whether you make good beats, produce amazingly or what not
eminem sells 10 million on his Greatest hits while trying to bomb it by shoving gerbils in his a$$hole on a song

if he's not signed to a machine and marketed well... he's not gonna do that or sustain accountability



its no different than why Kool G Rap wasnt marketed at the level of Silk Da Shocker
its not "producers" or "artist talent" its the machine behind you ... you can name a million rappers or beatmakers who just dont have the top 3 machine's in business behind them and came up regularly

Dre was not "always" a part of the "machine". That's nonsense.

"Straight Outta Compton" came out on Priority Records, which was a mid-level label.

SOC sold 2 million records while not being played on the radio.

NWA were turned down by EVERY major record label. Jimmy Iovine didn't come into the picture until AFTER Dre left Ruthless Records.

Still SOC & N4L are more important records than any that Quik has made in his career. Even without Iovine/Interscope, Dre would've gone down as more important producer.

 

[Ashtrey]

If I'm not mistaken Interscope didn't become a machine until Dre dropped the The Chronic. They didn't have multi-platinum sales until The Chronic. According to RIAA Interscope's first 5 out of 6 multi-platinum albums were from Death Row the other being 2Pac MATW.

Chronic 3xplat
Doggystyle 4xplat
Above the Rim 2xplat
Murder Was the Case 2xplat
Dogg Food 2xplat

They weren't selling records like that until Dre showed up. They had Rico Suave and Marky Mark

 

[Big Boss]

Jordan's a country ass bamma.

Magic is from more urban Lansing.

Dre was not "always" a part of the "machine". That's nonsense.

"Straight Outta Compton" came out on Priority Records, which was a mid-level label.

SOC sold 2 million records while not being played on the radio.

NWA were turned down by EVERY major record label. Jimmy Iovine didn't come into the picture until AFTER Dre left Ruthless Records.

Still SOC & N4L are more important records than any that Quik has made in his career. Even without Iovine/Interscope, Dre would've gone down as more important producer.

If I'm not mistaken Interscope didn't become a machine until Dre dropped the The Chronic. They didn't have multi-platinum sales until The Chronic. According to RIAA Interscope's first 5 out of 6 multi-platinum albums were from Death Row the other being 2Pac MATW.

Chronic 3xplat
Doggystyle 4xplat
Above the Rim 2xplat
Murder Was the Case 2xplat
Dogg Food 2xplat

They weren't selling records like that until Dre showed up. They had Rico Suave and Marky Mark

Facts