DJ Quik says he deserves to be where Dr Dre is

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

he never had access to it like dre. not blaming dre for his luck but give quik access to mc ren cube snoop kurupt daz warren g em 50 & kendrick his legacy would be greater than dre’s cus he’s a better producer

Dude, DJ Quik's from COMPTON. . . COMPTON

There's literally legendary rappers falling out of the sky in Compton.

Now, you think it's a coincidence that virtually ALL of them found their way to Dre instead of Quik in spite of the fact that they grew up in the same place at the same exact time?

Whoever said quick is a glorified engineer....so is Dre

No, Dre's an actual MUSIC PRODUCER like Quincy Jones, while guys like Quick are beat makers. BIG DIFFERENCE.

You think Quincy playing the instruments on "Thriller", G?

nah you missing the point. dre came in with cube and ren. left and landed on deathrow and had snoop daz kurupt nate dogg and pac dropped that bullshyt aftermath album nobody really fukked with then landed em then had 50 thru em then landed kendrick. quik aint had that much luck.

He didn't "come in the game with them", he MADE them.

There is no Cube, Ren, Eazy, D.O.C. without Dre.

It's like when nikkaz act like Scottie Pippen aint a top 50 player because he got to practice with Michael Jordan every fukkn' day until he picked up something.

I don't agree. Replies below.

• Mausberg, 2ndIINone, Hi-C, list goes on. (Like he said, didn't have the machine Dre had.)
• Yeah he didn't create Death Row. But he damn near made Dogg Food and All Eyez on Me (this album IS Quik). If you know you know. I guess you don't?
• Nah no Eminem, but who cares? fukk Eminem, who the fukk want to listen to that garbage? But he did co produce countless Aftermath hits and co produced 'In Da Club'. The song that made 50.
• Every single one of his albums is better than anything Dre has released post 2001 Chronic. All facts.
• Songs for the most part are on par with all Dre's, especially better post 2005. Dre has bigger songs, because of a machine. But not necessarily better.
• Dre's shyt sounds like a over mastered and mixed hot garbage more often than not post 2005. Why the fukk you think he never releases anything? Because his shyt stinks like over cooked meat. Dre is trash post 2005.

Dogg Food & All Eyez On Me are not on the level of The Chronic or Doggystyle


Those records were the beginning of the end of Death Row's dominance, een though they're all-time great records themselves.

Rhythmalism and Safe + Sound are neck and neck with The Chronic. And 2001 is whack as fukk.

Put the crackpipe down.

The Chronic and 2001 were COLLABORATIVE efforts that Dre couldn't achieve on his own. Especially with The Chronic when Dre pretty much looked at what Above the Law was cooking and outright bit their production concepts and allow Snoop to pretty much carry the album.

What solo album Dre done that's genuinely a SOLO ALBUM? Then we compare that with Quik's catalogue.

That's like saying why can't Quincy Jones just make a record on his own?

Why can't Steph Curry win a chip on his own?

Why can't Kanye make a classic on his own?

Some dudes their genius is in their collaborative abilities.

Dre platformed dudes who were nothing before him and made them legends.

Eazy-E wasn't even a rapper & Dre got him platinum records.

Eminem is literally the ONLY super lyrical battlerap type rapper in history to be successful. Think about all the Supermaturals, Jins, Serius Jones, Math Hoffa type rappers. Aint none of them nikkaz sell no records. This whyte boy meets Dre & literally becomes the best selling rapper of all-time.

Snoop himself admits that Dr. Dre taught him how to write songs because he was just a freestyle battle rapper who didn't know how to make music

The only dude I think might have been okay had he never met Dre is Cube, but he would've been a TOTALLY different cat. Remember why Cube went to NY to work with The Bomb Squad? He said if he couldn't work with the best producer on the West Coast (Dre), he'd have to work with the best ones in the East. He could've worked with Quik & a ton of other cats, but chose against it.

50 Could've easily been Papoose or Saiton or the 120,000 NY rappers who get all this street hype and become nothing. Dre put him on his course.

Dre is Dre for a reason.

Aint nobody ever got better AFTER leaving Dre.

 

[ShaDynasty]

Dr Dre raps like a westcoast version of rakim and dj quick raps like he the 4th member of Alvin and the chipmunks.
I sound like I’m clowning but it’s an accurate description quick doesn’t have the songs Breh he just doesn’t.
Him comparing himself to dr.
Dre is laughable. He’d be better off comparing himself to sugar free. Or 2nd II none

Vocally Quik sounds a bit like Eazy-E.

 

[Reptile]

Dude, DJ Quik's from COMPTON. . . COMPTON

There's literally legendary rappers falling out of the sky in Compton.

Now, you think it's a coincidence that virtually ALL of them found their way to Dre instead of Quik in spite of the fact that they grew up in the same place at the same exact time?


No, Dre's an actual MUSIC PRODUCER like Quincy Jones, while guys like Quick are beat makers. BIG DIFFERENCE.

You think Quincy playing the instruments on "Thriller", G?

He didn't "come in the game with them", he MADE them.

There is no Cube, Ren, Eazy, D.O.C. without Dre.

It's like when nikkaz act like Scottie Pippen aint a top 50 player because he got to practice with Michael Jordan every fukkn' day until he picked up something.

Dogg Food & All Eyez On Me are not on the level of The Chronic or Doggystyle


Those records were the beginning of the end of Death Row's dominance, een though they're all-time great records themselves.

Put the crackpipe down.

That's like saying why can't Quincy Jones just make a record on his own?

Why can't Steph Curry win a chip on his own?

Why can't Kanye make a classic on his own?

Some dudes their genius is in their collaborative abilities.

Dre platformed dudes who were nothing before him and made them legends.

Eazy-E wasn't even a rapper & Dre got him platinum records.

Eminem is literally the ONLY super lyrical battlerap type rapper in history to be successful. Think about all the Supermaturals, Jins, Serius Jones, Math Hoffa type rappers. Aint none of them nikkaz sell no records. This whyte boy meets Dre & literally becomes the best selling rapper of all-time.

Snoop himself admits that Dr. Dre taught him how to write songs because he was just a freestyle battle rapper who didn't know how to make music

The only dude I think might have been okay had he never met Dre is Cube, but he would've been a TOTALLY different cat. Remember why Cube went to NY to work with The Bomb Squad? He said if he couldn't work with the best producer on the West Coast (Dre), he'd have to work with the best ones in the East. He could've worked with Quik & a ton of other cats, but chose against it.

50 Could've easily been Papoose or Saiton or the 120,000 NY rappers who get all this street hype and become nothing. Dre put him on his course.

Dre is Dre for a reason.

Aint nobody ever got better AFTER leaving Dre.

You got no life going back and forth with 5+ people like the quite kid getting roasted by all the cool football players at lunch and trying his damndest to roast back. Get off my nuts biatch.

 

[darryl]

You got no life going back and forth with 5+ people like the quite kid getting roasted by all the cool football players at lunch and trying his damndest to roast back. Get off my nuts biatch.

Dude tried shyting on all eyez on me

 

[JustCKing]

timb was rapping on that album too he was the draw. it wasnt just a magoo album produced by timb like doggystyle is produced by dre. you’re wrong and its ok breh but you need to realize you’re wrong.

big tymers didnt hit until they third album after the hot boy success so the cash money brand was strong.

Have you heard Timbaland rap? And even if you want to go down that path, Quik's albums weren't selling either. How am I wrong?

Put it this way, Timbaland put his whole crew on. Why wasn't Quik able to do the same and yet people want to put him on a pedestal with Dre?

From 1996-1998: Ginuwine, Missy, Timbaland & Magoo, and Playa all dropped albums that at least went platinum.

Prove me wrong.

 

[Big Boss]

DJ Quik a GOAT but Dre got a family tree Eminem, Snoop and 50

 

[Mystic]

DJ Quik >>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Dre

And its not even close

 

[surv2syn]

Again, you do understand there's a MACHINE backing Dr. Dre. Hits aren't ever organic when you have that machine. That's like saying Drake is better than Black Thought because Drake has the hits and Black Thought do not, negating everything else. We know Drake has a machine around him. That's the same with Dre and always been the case. Imagine Quik having Just Lyke Compton be on heavy rotation on MTV back in those days when MTV didn't push rap videos like that aside from Yo! MTV Raps. Interscope was able to get Dre on radio rotation that NO rap artist could achieve.

You speak nothing but facts but people skipping over the “machine” part. And for the record I don’t believe someone found some old dusty tape of Eminem when Dre’s career was looking like it was on the ropes. Hell, wasn’t Snoop broke and living out of someone’s apartment then? There was no Eazy, NWA, and DOC was back in Texas regrouping. This isn’t to take away from Dre talent but he got lucky as hell after that with ‘Em and Fif. Quik also was mixing a lot of those Death Row records. I think Dre and Quik are cool with each other, I don’t take Quik statements to be bitter at all. Not saying Quik is equal or better but he is well deserving. In music there has to be a mega star and an unsung version of.

 

[Amo Husserl]

He gotta match or beat The Chronic before that talk. He had 30+ years... sick of these disgruntled producers talkin 'bout what they deserve after the math.

 

[surv2syn]

Quik did not have any signature mainstream acts under his umbrella. He had acts that he thought was dope and worked with them.

Dre specifically looked for stars. He may think you’re dope, but if you’re not a star, you’re not coming out. He is the type of guy to sign 100 acts, and based on his evaluation, he may determine only 2 of those 100 acts have star power and will sell records. That’s why Aftermath has signed so many people that have never come out.

The nygga said I deserve lol

Definitely a frustrating figure. nikka had Rakim and King Tee. Still pissed about the outcome of that. As a Dre fan I always thought he was overrated post NWA. He is probably the first that used ghost producers and achieve such mainstream success. Yeah they existed before him but he took that shyt to another level. Seems as if he was more of a puppet lending his name and beats to Firm rather than than creative director or A&R. His name was just such a huge brand. Quik being seen as a dope rapper first definitely overshadowed his name as a producer.

 

[surv2syn]

He gotta match or beat The Chronic before that talk. He had 30+ years... sick of these disgruntled producers talkin 'bout what they deserve after the math.

The Chronic? You mean coming off of albums with the first hip hop supergroup? I mean it was after the fact but even in real time do you know how big Eazy was? Then Cube, DOC, Ren, and Yella? Dre definitely was a star and did his part. No Dre, no NWA but cotdamn what a luxury to have. Eazy was bigger than the group. He gave them mainstream appeal. Without him, not sure how big NWA or Dre would have been. It’s ironic that a dude who didn’t know how to rap put the most light on a group of talented underground artists.

 

[MurderToCassette]

"And I'll prove I'm proper and yo game is whack with 1 line
I'll never put my name on a track that wasn't mine"

 

[Redwing80]

That's some wild hating ass shyt to say lol

 

[Amo Husserl]

The Chronic? You mean coming off of albums with the first hip hop supergroup? I mean it was after the fact but even in real time do you know how big Eazy was? Then Cube, DOC, Ren, and Yella? Dre definitely was a star and did his part. No Dre, no NWA but cotdamn what a luxury to have. Eazy was bigger than the group. He gave them mainstream appeal. Without him, not sure how big NWA or Dre would have been. It’s ironic that a dude who didn’t know how to rap put the most light on a group of talented underground artists.

I'm not arguing with a perfect storm.
Quik need to address his statement.
Don't put Dre success on Eazy, that man was perfecting his craft since '85.
He made a good business move looking back at his career.
Yeah, The Chronic.
Lemme escalate: Cube is a better writer than Quik.
Eazy was better scouting talent: Bone Thugs.
Quik's sound anchored in the region.
Dre brought mass appeal to the region's sound.
To Quik's credit, he had potential taking his sound to another level if he followed up:

 

[thephatmack]

Rhythmaliam is better the both Chronics musically and cohesively.
Safe and Sound is better than Doggystyle for the same reasons...

With note - All of these albums are 5 mics and there are not many 5 mic albums..^^^ 20 at best in hiphop history.

Quik is also a top.tier rapper with a great flow and voice.
Miles better than 99% of today's artists!
Would also hold his own on a verse with anybody on Death Row..


However Quiks ego I am sure has stopped him getting mainstream partnerships.. his output is poor and here we are.
With caveat Dr Dres output is poor too.. but Dre does just enough to stay in that mount Rushmore of hiphop limelight...