DNC Chair Race: PEREZ WINS (DNC asks all staffers to resign)

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:snoop: No! I agree with him about Ellison, but because of policy, not because "he looks like the future of the country." More identity politics

Agreed, I cringed when he said that... The DNC really needs to get rid of this identity politics shyt! Its just pandering. This is why I Bernie to me was REAL "change." Because he didn't go with that crap.

I really do believe that in modern history the left has been superior than the right. But the left really NEEDS to start talking more about leftist economic change and not just focus on social stuff like trans bathroom. They NEED to go back to their roots and that is Karl Marx, BUT cleaning his legacy by doing BETTER than the mistakes of the Soviet Union and others. Bernie Sanders to me was close to doing that.
 

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Did progressives actually win? :dahell:

All the centrists took Ls, they have no choice. Look around the country. One third of the Democratic House contingent is from California, NY and MA. Basically, the only Dems left are the ones in safely Democratic districts. There's no one "to the center" to cater to in order to protect their seats besides the people up for reelection in 2018, and Trump just won their states playing populist. Playing progressive works in their favor. I would run with the whole "democratic party has come home" angle.

Breh if anything the election of Trump shows to me how the country can be pushed in any direction as long as the optics are good. We've all seen the polls with how popular socialism is in America piece by piece, yet the Dems have never wanted to fight on those grounds. It's a new day in America. We always knew that the biggest roadblock to truly progressive policies were the Neo Liberals.

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I'm probably gonna wake up one day to a Sherrod Brown/Elizabeth Warren ticket like :dwillhuh:


Is Trump the goat? :dahell:
I think we won brehs

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I think we won brehs

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except you then realize that for all this change to happen the Supreme Court had to be given up for a possible generation and a conservative Supreme Court will see conservative will enacted through ridiculous interpretation of the law. This is only a victory if Breyer and Ginsberg are still sitting on the court in 4 years at age 87 and 82
 

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Agreed, I cringed when he said that... The DNC really needs to get rid of this identity politics shyt! Its just pandering. This is why I Bernie to me was REAL "change." Because he didn't go with that crap.

I really do believe that in modern history the left has been superior than the right. But the left really NEEDS to start talking more about leftist economic change and not just focus on social stuff like trans bathroom. They NEED to go back to their roots and that is Karl Marx, BUT cleaning his legacy by doing BETTER than the mistakes of the Soviet Union and others. Bernie Sanders to me was close to doing that.

We need to phase in socialism but the world will repackage it to stave off revolting masses due to automation. Then the world will be ready for it. However, a prudent socialist knows to fight it now, you must put in the FEAR of god in nikkas about automations to get nationalized health, education and such. America will be a big socialist state in under 20 yrs. Watch breh. A lot of perfect storms is coming to advantage us.
 

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We need to phase in socialism but the world will repackage it to stave off revolting masses due to automation. Then the world will be ready for it. However, a prudent socialist knows to fight it now, you must put in the FEAR of god in nikkas about automations to get nationalized health, education and such. America will be a big socialist state in under 20 yrs. Watch breh. A lot of perfect storms is coming to advantage us.
Indeed. This is why I said Bernie Sanders would have been REAL change or at least jump start this. Automation is inevitable.
 

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This going to be a tough fight. Identity is a powerful thing.
It'll never go away, but I think a signal needs to be sent that it needs to take a backseat to progressism populism.

The reason Moore gave for Ellison endorsing Ellison was he's non-white and the future of the country is non-white. He of all people should know the working class base the Democrats lost doesn't care about that. shyt, I don't care about it really.
 

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Indeed. This is why I said Bernie Sanders would have been REAL change or at least jump start this. Automation is inevitable.

The msm doesn't get it breh, they too caught up in their coastal hideaways to understand the dynamics at play right now. For this simple reason, the neoliberals need to be dog checked by the progressives and demoralized from leadership
 

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It'll never go away, but I think a signal needs to be sent that it needs to take a backseat to progressism populism.

The reason Moore gave for Ellison endorsing Ellison was he's non-white and the future of the country is non-white. He of all people should know the working class base the Democrats lost doesn't care about that. shyt, I don't care about it really.
I care about diversity and people being recognized. But no one wants to be lectured about that shyt and have politics driven strictly based on giving those people a voice. It has be a part of a larger message. Even Sanders didn't find the balance. People take it as denying that racism exists. Every single millennial group (besides white people) list racism as one of their top 3 concerns.
 
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