DNC Chair Race: PEREZ WINS (DNC asks all staffers to resign)

[the cac mamba]

shutup, dikkhead. wheres your receipts :jaymad:

 

[the next guy]

Still unbelievable. Really unbelievable.

And the military still supported him! It is what it is. But your not going to get him out of office by doing the same things as before.

 

[FAH1223]

You really don't know shyt about the DNC platform or its electorate.

The ONLY reason ya'll wanted Ellison because of the Bernie co-sign.

Keith had the co-sign of establishment Dems too. He was the only candidate to have both HRC and Bernie people endorsing him.

 

[acri1]

Meh, I'm pretty indifferent to Perez at the moment, don't really know enough about him to have a strong opinion. Though I think DNC Chair isn't as important a position as it sounds anyway.

Should be able to fight for social justice and win the working class with decent economic policy, but these people can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Nah.

At this point the whole idea of "Social Justice" offends the majority of white voters. Not that I agree with the idea of pandering to xenophobes.

 

[No1]

These motherfukkers haven't learned a damn thing. Same shyt with these out of touch elites, wall street hookers, dumb rich Hollywood stars and fighting for inconsequential transgender issues.

You went a bit too far by saying those issues are inconsequential. You're actually playing into how we've been smeared. Those issues aren't inconsequential and not to them. To them, those are the only changes left to make in an otherwise okay system. That's the problem. We are ideologically different. We don't belong in the same party, but we're stuck together based on history, resources and opposition to Republicans. I have no problem with people who are not to the left of me because no one becomes revolutionary overnight, the issue is their opposition to any left-wing critique.

 

[the next guy]

This dude is a fukking troll:

You really don't know shyt about the DNC platform or its electorate.

The ONLY reason ya'll wanted Ellison because of the Bernie co-sign.

Knock it off,

This is your Obama coalition? These scaredy cats? For shame.

Hey, if the coli establishment says it works, then the staus quo is a-ok.

You still holding out for Hillary 2020?

Maybe if we continue making jokes about Melania and Ivanka, he'll cry and leave office. that's what the hillary men want us to think.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Nah.

At this point the whole idea of "Social Justice" offends the majority of white voters. Not that I agree with the idea of pandering to xenophobes.

But if joint class struggle is never engaged in, the majority of cacs will never turn away from that. The country is founded on white supremacy and that won't change just by debating with people that prejudice is wrong.

Dems haven't been winning the majority of cacs anyway when they've been running on shytty economic policies.

 

[Arithmetic]

FACTS


Trump probably doesn't even know 1 of his goons tweeted that yet.

 

[the next guy]

Meh, I'm pretty indifferent to Perez at the moment, don't really know enough about him to have a strong opinion. Though I think DNC Chair isn't as important a position as it sounds anyway.




Nah.

At this point the whole idea of "Social Justice" offends the majority of white voters. Not that I agree with the idea of pandering to xenophobes.

Half this country didn't vote, because they hated both candidates. Social Justice offends some, not all, and who cares if it does. Having black neolibs in high positions will not solve racism as you can clearly see.

 

[Regular_P]

Meh, I'm pretty indifferent to Perez at the moment, don't really know enough about him to have a strong opinion. Though I think DNC Chair isn't as important a position as it sounds anyway.




Nah.

At this point the whole idea of "Social Justice" offends the majority of white voters. Not that I agree with the idea of pandering to xenophobes.

It was pretty fukking important during the primaries.

 

[the next guy]

Exactly. Balance is critical and needed.

You went a bit too far by saying those issues are inconsequential. You're actually playing into how we've been smeared. Those issues aren't inconsequential and not to them. To them, those are the only changes left to make in an otherwise okay system. That's the problem. We are ideologically different. We don't belong in the same party, but we're stuck together based on history, resources and opposition to Republicans. I have no problem with people who are not to the left of me because no one becomes revolutionary overnight, the issue is their opposition to any left-wing critique.

 

[Type Username Here]

Meh, I'm pretty indifferent to Perez at the moment, don't really know enough about him to have a strong opinion. Though I think DNC Chair isn't as important a position as it sounds anyway..

Dead Wrong.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

He collaborated to give Hillary the nomination. We can't also have someone that supports the TPP, that will go over like a lead balloon in the midwest. Plus Keith is black.

How? And his support of TPP doesn't erase the fact that he's a strong labor advocate and has strong ties to labor unions. And why would that matter, anyway? DNC chair is in the background - they don't push policy, they work to get candidates elected. We wouldn't even be talking about this if DWS wasn't so legendarily horrible. Or if Bernie didn't give an endorsement. I really don't understand why this is such a controversy.

 

[Type Username Here]

You went a bit too far by saying those issues are inconsequential. You're actually playing into how we've been smeared. Those issues aren't inconsequential and not to them. To them, those are the only changes left to make in an otherwise okay system. That's the problem. We are ideologically different. We don't belong in the same party, but we're stuck together based on history, resources and opposition to Republicans. I have no problem with people who are not to the left of me because no one becomes revolutionary overnight, the issue is their opposition to any left-wing critique.

We don't belong in the same party. Their issues are inconsequential if the "okay system" becomes anything but that. Trans people are much more likely to live in poverty. At the end of the day the major issues are economics, labor rights and the class struggle. Almost every single thing stems from those 3 issues, from global warming to violence.

Not thinking in this way is political suicide.

 

[acri1]

But if joint class struggle is never engaged in, the majority of cacs will never turn away from that. The country is founded on white supremacy and that won't change just by debating with people that prejudice is wrong.

Dems haven't been winning the majority of cacs anyway when they've been running on shytty economic policies.

Meh, maybe I'm jaded by current events, but I mean, Donald Trump is president.

And that's largely because he's popular with working class white people, who feel that they relate to him despite him (mainly because of populism and him bashing minorities) always having been rich as fukk. And consider that this is a group that by and large dislikes Obama despite him having much more in common with them in terms of class.


So I'm honestly pretty skeptical that people will ever actually put class over racial/ethnic divisions. It's way too easy to just blame economic problems on minorities or immigrants.