DNC Chair Race: PEREZ WINS (DNC asks all staffers to resign)

[JahFocus CS]

You guys remember that kid Zach who went after Donna Brazille right after the election?

He's tweeting

tender a resignation?

anybody asking that from me would be getting a "what you say? Fire me, you're paying for that unemployment bih "

 

[FAH1223]

Joe Biden and Martin O'Malley campaigned for Stephanie Hansen in Delaware.

That's how bad the Democrats have gotten at the state level.

She won though.

 

[How Sway?]

The marginalization of LGBTQ people is a real issue. Just because they are sexual minorities doesn't invalidate their concerns or make them unimportant.

I don't necessarily disagree with you but that seemed to be a main focus for the Democrats for the past few years.

I don't want to come off as insensitive to their plight, they do deserve basic rights just like anyone else, but i think there are more pressing issues at hand.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I don't necessarily disagree with you but that seemed to be a main focus for the Democrats for the past few years.

I don't want to come off as insensitive to their plight, they do deserve basic rights just like anyone else, but i think there are more pressing issues at hand.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Hopefully with Perez nominating Ellisson as his deputy chair can at least unite the Democrats and progressives and they can move forward on real issues other than ghey shyt and tranny bathrooms.

maybe I'm being naive, but both wings gotta come together not just symbollically and not bc of their mutual hate for the orange man

Nominating Ellison as deputy seems like a shallow intention simply to get the foot soldiers doing the real grass roots movement on their side. Those Berniecrrats would have splintered into a different group.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Nominating Ellison as deputy seems like a shallow intention simply to get the foot soldiers doing the real grass roots movement on their side. Those Berniecrrats would have splintered into a different group.

This is my constant concern. Progressive energy always gets channeled into advancing and propping up some bullshyt that is really anti-progressive.

 

[satam55]

The hate for Perez seems highly manufactured

This is what I'm talking about folks who haven't been paying attention coming into to this thread & making dumb comments.

The hate for Perez is because he's the Establishment pick.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

In your last post you seemed to suggest that people voting for more progressive third-party candidates instead of establishment nominees were somehow in the wrong for not voting for the (Dem) candidates who you feel are less dangerous than the Republican candidates, with the danger being to folks who you think progressive voters are better insulated than. I think some sort of a savior complex is an aspect of seeing lesser-evilism voting as a general orientation instead of a situational tactic. I focus on the social balance of forces and I know that the Democrats are a bourgeois party that is not for the working class. So, I don't necessarily see the Democrats as getting closer to what I'd like to see.

I have my own answers to these and my own thoughts on solutions but I want to pose the questions to you. Who in particular is being damaged by GOP policies? What are the Democrats proposing that is substantively different from those policies? Are the folks/groups you think are being particularly harmed by GOP policies organizing to defend their own interests and what does a state of affairs look like under which these folks/groups are not vulnerable and oppressed? Does that state of affairs look anything like what the Democrats are advocating for?

I definitely agree with you that among some there is a savior complex that is used to mask ones true intentions. Speaking for myself (and I would guess many others are in the same position), I was born and raised in a working class family (and even that is being generous) as were the vast majority of my friends and family growing up. I am in no way removed from all of the things we had to go through.

You're getting caught up in a philosophical discussion and meanwhile the working class that you care for is going to be put through the grinder. I absolutely agree that on some issues there is unfortunately not enough daylight between the establishment wing of the Democratic Party and the GOP. But it is objectively false to claim that across an entire platform that the Democratic Party isn't closer to the interests of the working class than the alternative. And to suggest that is IMO willful blindness. It's one thing to believe that because you simply are uninformed, but to peddle that falsehood simply because a candidate or party fails a particular purity test is beyond my comprehension.

People need to realize that political change rarely if ever occurs at the drop of a hat. It's not something that just happens with one election, or one candidate. These are GENERATIONAL struggles. The minute you walk away you lose any influence you may have had to push policy towards the people you claim to support.

RE: your questions

1. Everyone is being harmed by GOP policies.
2. Is this a serious question? You don't think there is a difference between Dem/GOP policies on the environment (air/water quality standards, fuel efficiency, oil exploration on federal lands etc), health care (Medicaid expansion), taxation (tax cuts/credits disproportionately skewed towards upper income - for instance look at the real story behind Ivanka's child care tax credit) , immigration (even if you favor increased enforcement, there is a difference in priorities of whom should be deported; proposed elimination of the DV lottery visa program, which is one of the few ways that Africans are able to legally immigrate to the US; policies against sanctuary cities), criminal justice (they've already backtracked on policies meant to eliminate the use of private prisons in the federal prison system; they will end up fighting states that have relaxed recreational marijuana laws ); even on things that both parties "agree" such as the infrastructure investment, the way those initiatives will be financed is night and day, and of course the Trump/GOP policy ends up being nothing more than a giveaway to contractors for projects that they were ALREADY planning, or projects that only make financial sense if the newly constructed asset is privatized.

3. Again, as is the case with all things in life - people will have different motivations for everyhting they do. Of course there are people organizing - people from all socio-economic statuses. I have no idea what that will look like. But again you are chasing unicorns. At what point in history has there ever been a civilization whereby some group is not being oppressed? Is that the standard by which you judge a political platform??? If it doesn't end all oppression then it's not something you can get behind?

 

[the cac mamba]

 

[satam55]

 

[satam55]

MINNESOTA DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN Keith Ellison lost his bid to become the chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Saturday after a scorched-earth smear campaign targeting his religious faith, his affinity for the Nation of Islam in his youth, and his support for Palestinian rights alongside a secure Israel.

Instead, the majority of the DNC’s voting members chose former labor secretary Tom Perez to lead the party. After two rounds of voting in Atlanta, Perez netted 235 votes to Ellison’s 200.

Perez was widely perceived as being brought into the race by allies of President Obama, former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and other members of the party establishment. One of the speakers who introduced his nomination, South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Jamie Harrison, also works as a corporate lobbyist for the D.C.-based Podesta Group. After neither candidate reached a majority of votes in the first round of voting, Harrison was on the floor, whipping votes for Perez.

Ellison — a black man, a Bernie Sanders supporter, and the first Muslim elected to Congress — earned initial support from many Democrats until a strong backlash from the Obama and Clinton camps and prominent pro-Israeli activists.

Haim Saban, the entertainment tyc00n who is one of the Democratic Party’s largest donors, called Ellison both “anti-Israel” and anti-Semitic. The Anti-Defamation League called on Democrats to reject him. On the eve of the vote, prominent Democrat Alan Dershowitz proclaimed that he would leave the party if Ellison were elected chair; Jack Rosen, who leads the American Jewish Congress, emailed DNC members the day before the vote decrying Ellison’s views on the Middle East, concluding that he threatened the U.S.-Israel relationship.

Perez, on the other hand, courted pro-Israel activists during the course of the contest.

Shortly after his victory, Perez offered the newly created position of “deputy chair” to Ellison, which Ellison accepted. This is not an official position in the DNC’s bylaws so it is unclear what this position would entail. It is also unclear whether Ellison will still leave Congress, which he announced he would do if he won the chair position.

Many prominent Muslim Americans expressed disappointment in Ellison’s defeat, saying that his treatment during the course of the campaign was emblematic of how Muslims fare in public life.

The Brookings Institution’s Shadi Hamid, former Al Jazeera host Wajahat Ali, and prominent Muslim New Yorker Linda Sarsour reacted on Twitter:

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

This is what I'm talking about folks who haven't been paying attention coming into to this thread & making dumb comments.

The hate for Perez is because he's the Establishment pick.

Give me a fukking break. Ellison had fukking Pelosi, Schumer, Reid and a myriad of establishment (whatever the fukk that means nowadays) democrats backing him up. It seems that the only thing that matters is that one was endorsed by Sanders and the other wasn't. Optics? fukk that. The chair is not the face of the party. The chair is not drafting policy. The chair isn't going to be campaigning with candidates. It's a behind the scenes organizational positional that most people wouldn't care about if 1) DWS wasn't so inept, and 2) Bernie didn't endorse. Again, why is this such a huge deal?

 

[satam55]

https://twitter.com/RickyRawls/status/835687408670806016

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

Lol yes you dumb fukks. If Perez is Obama and the Clinton's pick, than actual progressives and leftists that are part of the Dem Party should actually be worried and angered.



Hes the ESTABLISHMENTS pick.

 

[FAH1223]

Neera Tanden, the President of the Center for American Progress, is like a female Napolean IRL

She brings up a donation from 2014 to troll Nomiki Konst who's been covering the DNC Chair race and had her salary crowd sourced. TYT was one of the few outlets covering this race the whole time.