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[88m3]

what are those stories suppose to prove?

How great NO an LA schools are as you had to point out!

LOL, bloomberg?

bloomberg is part of the fuk public schools movement, i support bloomberg, im saying he didnt go far enough and that other mayors need to follow him

closing charter schools is also part of my argument, i support it, if a school doesnt perform it needs to be shut down

if you show me how many schools mayor koch or dinkins closed then you may have a point, but using bloomberg, ,who basically is doing what im suggesting, as an example of public schools closing is laughable

Schools are still being shut down regardless of Bloomberg



Do you realize how disruptive it is to keep closing schools? Wait you don't care.




You don't know what the f'ck is going on when it comes to anything. You're as disassociated with the world around you as thekingsidiot

 

[theworldismine13]

How great NO an LA schools are as you had to point out!

but it still stands that you have no real ideas on school reform

there are no public schools in NO and thats a good thing

 

[theworldismine13]

New Orleans charter schools' academic growth superior, study says
http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2015/03/new_orleans_charter_school_suc.html

Students at New Orleans charter schools show more academic growth than their peers in conventional schools, according to a new study from Stanford University. There were 41 cities in the study, and New Orleans charters' results were among the strongest.

"The number of quality seats in New Orleans continues to go up," said Margaret (Macke) Raymond, director of Stanford's Center for Research on Education Outcomes. "New Orleans is a fine example of an extended commitment to improving schools."

The improvement held across all races and ethnicities, and for special education students. Gains were especially large in mathematics, where charter students progressed almost twice as far in a year than their peers in conventional schools. In reading, they showed two thirds more progress.

The center has analyzed New Orleans several times since Hurricane Katrina and come to the same conclusion. Its latest study was released Wednesday (March 18).

"New Orleans is a fine example of an extended commitment to improving schools." - Stanford researcher

Especially notable, Raymond said, is that the gains continued even as more charters replaced conventional schools, those run by larger public education systems. "That's not something we see everywhere," she said.

The study tracks students from fall 2006 to spring 2012 and included both the Orleans Parish School Board and the Louisiana Recovery School District. At that time, the Recovery system still ran about 20 schools, according to the New Orleans Parents' Guide, all of which have since closed or been chartered.

Researchers measured academic growth, not absolute test scores. New Orleans test scores are among the lowest of the 41 cities Stanford studied. The city was also the one of the poorest in the study.

Looking at the national picture, an earlier Stanford report found charters were not consistently better than conventional schools. But this study shows city charters recorded more growth on average than conventional schools, and did better than charters in the suburbs or rural areas. The improvement for students in city charters was as if they had taken 40 more days of math and 28 more days of reading than their peers.

"Nearly every group of students experiences greater growth in urban charter schools than they would have otherwise expected," the researchers wrote.

 

[88m3]

but it still stands that you have no real ideas on school reform

there are no public schools in NO and thats a good thing

I'm sure the children are really benefiting from Jesus and baby raptor playing together.


I've told you what needs to be fixed for children to get a proper footing.

 

[88m3]

New Orleans charter schools' academic growth superior, study says
http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2015/03/new_orleans_charter_school_suc.html

Might want to read the comments section to see what's actually going on and why.

 

[theworldismine13]

Might want to read the comments section to see what's actually going on and why.

whatever is going, one thing for sure is that its better than when NO had all public schools

its very obvious that the chicken littles are wrong, and this idea that the world is going to end if we get rid of public schools is bs

 

[88m3]

whatever is going, one thing for sure is that its better than when NO had all public schools

its very obvious that the chicken littles are wrong, and this idea that the world is going to end if we get rid of public schools is bs

Lee BarriosMar 25, 2015




I don't know how much time it will take but Research on Reforms just released this yesterday. I am sure they will request same data given to CREDO and we will find out the truth about RSD, CREDO, NSNO, LDE and RSD:



http://www.researchonreforms.org/html/documents/AppealCourtReversesDistrictCourt.pdf






khrMar 22, 2015


I find it interesting that the picture is of a selective admissions charter school. I'm a proud 1981 graduate of Warren Easton, so I'm not bashing Easton, but if selective admissions charter schools in New Orleans are a part of these results, I'm not impressed. What does it mean anyway about making more growth than expected? Let's do some research that compares the academic performance of students from every RSD charter school in the state with other schools in Louisiana. How about we measure the academic performance of NOLA RSD charter schools with the performance of OPSB traditional schools during over the last 9 years that there were no more neighborhood schools.




dontlielionMar 23, 2015


@khr They wont share that data, because it will show how poorly the RSD schools are performing. The OPSB schools will always outperform the RSD because they are selective admissions, and they are mostly all staffed with traditional educators that know what they are doing, not the BS TFA, quick fix folks that have taken over the RSD.


@Sandy Rosenthal Now you sound like Arne Duncan. I work with many parents who don't share this view. As a former public school parent myself, I did not share this view when I was faced with the daunting task of having to find another school for my son in 2013 when I was sent a letter telling me that due to a drop in his GPA, he needed to seek an education in another school. When I looked around, especially to the school that I had helped to create, 2 blocks from my home, I found that not only was that school not accessible to me, there were absolutely no other public schools that I would even consider for my child that were available to me. Needless to say I fought the removal and my son was able to return to his charter school for his final year of high school. Since that was the only school he's ever attended in New Orleans, it seemed cruel to me that charter school law allows charter schools to kick such a student out due to academic performance. Worse than that, it seems especially cruel that the school I intended for him to attend, the one in our neighborhood, was not an option when he was in 9th grade because somehow his application was mysteriously missing and this new post Katrina system of public education did not have a grievance policy that would make it possible for my child to attend my choice of school, the one I helped to create before it became a charter by force. Perhaps those who don't have experiences as parents in pre Katrina and post Katrina schools in New Orleans aren't really qualified to make the statement you and Arne made about our schools after the disaster.




chicken littles = taxpayers/ parents?

Do you even understand what they're saying?




you're such a feeble man

 

[88m3]

Sandy RosenthalMar 20, 2015




Fabulous news and good reporting on it.

The improvement in public schools for our city's children is one of the bright outcomes of the worst civil engineering disaster in the history of the US of A.






khrMar 22, 2015


@Sandy Rosenthal Now you sound like Arne Duncan. I work with many parents who don't share this view. As a former public school parent myself, I did not share this view when I was faced with the daunting task of having to find another school for my son in 2013 when I was sent a letter telling me that due to a drop in his GPA, he needed to seek an education in another school. When I looked around, especially to the school that I had helped to create, 2 blocks from my home, I found that not only was that school not accessible to me, there were absolutely no other public schools that I would even consider for my child that were available to me. Needless to say I fought the removal and my son was able to return to his charter school for his final year of high school. Since that was the only school he's ever attended in New Orleans, it seemed cruel to me that charter school law allows charter schools to kick such a student out due to academic performance. Worse than that, it seems especially cruel that the school I intended for him to attend, the one in our neighborhood, was not an option when he was in 9th grade because somehow his application was mysteriously missing and this new post Katrina system of public education did not have a grievance policy that would make it possible for my child to attend my choice of school, the one I helped to create before it became a charter by force. Perhaps those who don't have experiences as parents in pre Katrina and post Katrina schools in New Orleans aren't really qualified to make the statement you and Arne made about our schools after the disaster.




dontlielionMar 23, 2015




@Sandy Rosenthal are you really serious? You and your sister in law should be as far away from poor black kids as possible. You think this BS reform is helping our kids? I'd say take your kids and send them to Crescent City Leadership for a week and ask them if it is a "Bright Outcome"

Continue to attempt to spread this foolish propaganda, but you don't really care anyway. Your family and the rest of the reformers are making millions on the backs of poor black kids anyway. You'll keep applauding this all the way to the bank. Shame on you Mrs. Rosenthal.

 

[theworldismine13]

those comments amount to a hill of beans

and having to resort to posting comments is just

stop it breh, we are trying to elevate the academics around here

 

[theworldismine13]

How great NO an LA schools are as you had to point out!

i was just pointing out NO schools, becuase they got rid of all publics schools, your article was about LA

Schools are still being shut down regardless of Bloomberg

thats becuase of momentum, deblasio like a typical democrat is trying to stop school reform and stop the spread of charters

but anyways unless you can show that koch and dinkins were shutting down schools you dont have a point

Do you realize how disruptive it is to keep closing schools? Wait you don't care.

dont care

You don't know what the f'ck is going on when it comes to anything. You're as disassociated with the world around you as thekingsidiot

im very much in touch and i realized that the public school system is a decrepit system that is killing young black minds and it needs to be thrown in the garbage

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

the truth hurts

for a lot of people they have no real ideas to improve schools aside from increasing funding, they are at a creative and intellectual dead end

I think the bigger issue to combat is what happens after school. When you have more involved parents and better resources like tutors, after school programs, etc that helps with performance. But if you going home to a 1 bedroom shythole with your mother smoking newports and the TV blaring nothing is gonna help. That's always been the other side of the coin that's never been addressed, parental involvement. How do you teach that? How do you solve that? How does that one kid get the individual attention they need. Even if the resources are available if you don't have someone pushing you in that direction you are going to fail.

One idea I always had was a parent incentive program. Maybe the parents get access to more stipends depending on the kids performance. I hate that it would have to come to that, but to me, traveling from projects to white trash trailer homes, this is a socioeconomic problem as well. Less funds at home seem to coincide with less parental academic involvement. School almost becomes a glorified daycare.

 

[theworldismine13]

I think the bigger issue to combat is what happens after school. When you have more involved parents and better resources like tutors, after school programs, etc that helps with performance. But if you going home to a 1 bedroom shythole with your mother smoking newports and the TV blaring nothing is gonna help. That's always been the other side of the coin that's never been addressed, parental involvement. How do you teach that? How do you solve that? How does that one kid get the individual attention they need. Even if the resources are available if you don't have someone pushing you in that direction you are going to fail.

One idea I always had was a parent incentive program. Maybe the parents get access to more stipends depending on the kids performance. I hate that it would have to come to that, but to me, traveling from projects to white trash trailer homes, this is a socioeconomic problem as well. Less funds at home seem to coincide with less parental academic involvement. School almost becomes a glorified daycare.

thats an argument for more social programs, thats not an argument to keep the current public education system or to put more money into public schools

if there is a kid that lives in a 1 bedroom, with the tv blaring and their mom smoking newports, etc that is an argument for eliminating the traditional public school system and creating one that takes into account that situation

my whole entire anti public school argument is premised on that public school bureaucracies haven't and cannot adapt to the situation that kids are coming from, we need a completely new system and completely new ideas

 

[Madvillain]

I think the bigger issue to combat is what happens after school. When you have more involved parents and better resources like tutors, after school programs, etc that helps with performance. But if you going home to a 1 bedroom shythole with your mother smoking newports and the TV blaring nothing is gonna help. That's always been the other side of the coin that's never been addressed, parental involvement. How do you teach that? How do you solve that? How does that one kid get the individual attention they need. Even if the resources are available if you don't have someone pushing you in that direction you are going to fail.

One idea I always had was a parent incentive program. Maybe the parents get access to more stipends depending on the kids performance. I hate that it would have to come to that, but to me, traveling from projects to white trash trailer homes, this is a socioeconomic problem as well. Less funds at home seem to coincide with less parental academic involvement. School almost becomes a glorified daycare.

I think reducing labor hours would go a long way for helping parents rear children by giving adults more free time. Reevaluating unpaid domestic labor, such as raising children, would help, too - I think it was Ann Crittenden's Price of Motherhood that argued the need for treating children as a public good.

 

[theworldismine13]

I think reducing labor hours would go a long way for helping parents rear children by giving adults more free time. Reevaluating unpaid domestic labor, such as raising children, would help, too - I think it was Ann Crittenden's Price of Motherhood that argued the need for treating children as a public good.

so here we go again, no real ideas on how to reform the school system

 

[88m3]

so here we go again, no real ideas on how to reform the school system

You can't separate the issues.