Do Black GOPers even care about their brand at this point?

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The idea of conservative Blacks vs. Black conservatives is a good one but these people I mentioned early were GOP affiliated Black conservatives.

There are huge holes in Sowell's cultural deterministic theses and I am not saying he is down or I agree with his cover fire for WS throughout history, but he is a genuinely smart dude getting a PhD in economics at UChicago in the 60s. I would never grant that to most of these latter day folks like Candace Owens.
So Uncle Tom sowell more nefarious because he's supposed to know what he's talking about instead of using his academic pedigree to spread lies.

Out of Curiosity, why should BP read thomas Sowell? Which of his Principles are worth applying?
 

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I said it once and I said it again.

There's a big difference between Black conservatism and White conservatism in the USA and that's why few of our socially conservative elders voted GOP.

White conservatism is about maintaining the status quo which benefits White America by any means necessary and many are willing to support full blown fascism to fulfill that agenda.

Black conservatives might pass judgement on certain lifestyles or subgroups of people but rarely do they support discriminating against or disenfranchising people. The same traditionalist pastors who are against same sex marriage will dap up the zesty choir directors in their church and vote against policies trying to take away their civil rights.

There's no real room for the White brand of conservatism in the Black community.

Also, certain things labeled "conservative" are just stable and Conservatives don't have a monopoly over stability.

Tons of GOP voting rural areas and hick towns in the USA are rampant with opioid/substance abuse, broken households, kids born out of wedlock, alcoholism, divorces, poor decision making, low educational attainment, etc. but Republicans have done a great PR job at pretending that they're the vanguards of stable marriages and households.
 

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I have no excuses to make as I'm a proud and out Trump supporter right now.

Can you say the same? :sas2:

At least I aint a p*ssy like you afraid to be honest about where I stand right here right now. :usure:

I say I support Trump and I speak on it freely.

What about you, nxgga? :childplease:

And before you come back with the "nooo I would never support Trump :picard:" while clutching your pearls (you a hoe so I know you got a string of pearls around your neck, I only hope it's the real ones and not the ones you got when you got done sucking off @Another Man you punk fxggot)...

Don't forget that there's plenty of evidence on this site that you support Trump.

Unless you plan to go back and start editing all your posts like your fellow hoe @Bunchy Carter did. :sas1:

:mjlol:
 

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Them dudes is cornballs and clearly “grifters”. I hate even using that word.

This is a good thread, because I come from men that I’d consider black conservatives, but they don’t even rock with them or the party. Never really have to be honest. The party is way to open with the racist shyt. So, like them, I vote for the blue guys while shaking my head doing so. Ain’t got no choice.
 

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Them dudes is cornballs and clearly “grifters”. I hate even using that word.

This is a good thread, because I come from men that I’d consider black conservatives, but they don’t even rock with them or the party. Never really have to be honest. The party is way to open with the racist shyt. So, like them, I vote for the blue guys while shaking my head doing so. Ain’t got no choice.

This is the irony of the whole ordeal cause black conservatives have existed in the Democratic party for decades

So Uncle Tom sowell more nefarious because he's supposed to know what he's talking about instead of using his academic pedigree to spread lies.

Out of Curiosity, why should BP read thomas Sowell? Which of his Principles are worth applying?

I don’t wish on many people but Sowell can die slow for all I care especially after this shyt


This fukking fakkit literally was trying to argue it was a hate crime even with the DA and the fukking judge saying it wasn’t racially motivated in fukking KANSAS
 

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I said it once and I said it again.

There's a big difference between Black conservatism and White conservatism in the USA and that's why few of our socially conservative elders voted GOP.

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Agree. I think there's a difference between Black and white political stances in general. I think for survival, Black voters have had to be more pragmatic. Having interests , and not ties or married to political ideology.


It throws me off a bit to see/hear Black people go along, rubber stamp, and parrot white liberals on everything. Almost as if they can't form personal opinions about issues that affect them and their communities differently.

I remember them parroting their thought leaders and repeating PURE NONSENSE, from Bernie Bros. " Bernie lost the SC primary to Biden because Black people vote with emotion/got hustled/don't understand politics"
MFers were repeating that bullsh*t here.
Those White boys have no choice but to laugh at people with such low self esteem.

By the same token, Black people repeating/co-signing Conservative nonsense and talking points are also Court Jesters.
 

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MLK Was An Inferior Pastor And ‘Communist,’ Said Top GOP Candidate For N.C. Governor​

In unearthed Facebook posts, Mark Robinson also called the civil rights movement “crap” and vowed to work on MLK Day because he’s “not a leach."

By Jennifer Bendery

Jan 15, 2024, 05:30 AM EST


Martin Luther King Jr. was just an “ersatz pastor” and a “communist,” and the 1960s civil rights movement was “crap,” according to a series of Facebook posts by Mark Robinson, the leading Republican candidate to be North Carolina’s next governor.

Robinson, who is currently the state’s lieutenant governor, regularly criticized King and the civil rights movement for years on Facebook ― specifically on MLK Day ― HuffPost found amid a review of his posts. The Black politician also downplayed slavery, rejected the idea that he’s part of the African American community, and attacked the late congressman and civil rights icon, John Lewis.

These posts are surfacing at a time when Robinson, who is on track to be the GOP nominee for governor in November, has been trying to soften his rhetoric, and celebrate King and the civil rights movement.

Last month, former President Donald Trump hailed Robinson as “better than Dr. Martin Luther King” at a campaign event, and Robinson responded by saying he “took it as a compliment” and “knowing what I know about him, and the history thereof, you know, those are big shoes to fill.”

His social media posts tell a different story.

In January 2018, Robinson mocked people who celebrate King, who he said was just a subpar pastor. He didn’t mention King by name, but he was clearly talking about the civil rights leader in his series of messages posted on MLK Day that year.

“It is at once funny and sad that so many people will follow the lead of a bunch of atheists and worship an ersatz pastor as a deity,” he wrote in one post.

Robinson also used MLK Day to dismiss the idea that racism is real.

“The ‘state of race relations’ exist chiefly within your own mind,” he said.

“‘Free at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty we are free at last!’ Now what?” he said in another post that day.

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MARK ROBINSON'S FACEBOOK PAGE

Those posts came exactly one year after Robinson wrote that he planned to work on MLK Day, a federal holiday, to show that he wasn’t “a leach” on society and allowing the government to cut him a break.

“Tomorrow I will do my ‘service to the community’ by going to work to continue to support myself and my family so I’m not a leach on said community,” Robinson posted on Jan. 16, 2017.

He also wrote on MLK Day that year, “I don’t like Communist. No matter what ‘color’ they are.”

The North Carolina Republican later admitted in his 2022 book, “We Are The Majority,” that he had been calling King a communist.

“December of 2007 was when I joined Facebook,” he wrote on pages 156-157. “Every political thought I had in my head, I put on there, up to and including my posting photos of Martin Luther King and calling him a communist.”

Officials with Robinson’s campaign and in his official government office did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

Robinson hasn’t limited his Facebook criticisms to King on MLK Day. That same day, in 2017, he attacked Lewis, who nearly lost his life fighting for voting rights. On March 7, 1965, Alabama police officers gassed and brutally beat Lewis and hundreds of other peaceful protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma. That day, now known as “Bloody Sunday,” left Lewis with a fractured skull.

“Hey John Lewis, Just because you got beat up by some Democrats in 1965 doesn’t mean you can’t get criticized by some Republicans in 2017,” Robinson wrote.

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MARK ROBINSON'S FACEBOOK PAGE

That same day, Robinson posted that actual real-life slavery isn’t as bad as slavery “of the mind,” which is Satan’s greatest tool.

“Slavery of the mind is FAR worse than physical slavery,” the GOP gubernatorial hopeful wrote. “Slavery of the mind cannot be seen, cannot be made illegal, and is and always has been the greatest tool of Satan used against man..... and men against each other.”

The day before, Robinson also posted that he didn’t “care what Lewis did in the 60s” because the problem was what Lewis was doing that year, in 2017.

(In fact, in 2017, Lewis was calling out Trump for not being “a legitimate president,” citing Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections to help him win.)

But wait, there’s more!

In May of 2017, Robinson posted on Facebook that the 1960s civil rights movement was “crap” and a communist effort.

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MARK ROBINSON'S FACEBOOK PAGE

That same month, in a particularly long post, he wrote that he doesn’t consider himself part of the “African-American’ community” because this community murders its children and “sucks from the putrid tit of the government and then complains about getting sour milk.”

Going back further on Facebook, Robinson wrote in 2015 that the civil rights movement was “never about giving rights” to people, but about setting the stage to take people’s rights away. The year before that, he wrote that racial integration was never about freedom but about destroying Black people and “the bondage” of their minds.

Robinson is already known for his wildly offensive comments about women, LGBTQ people and Muslims, in addition to fueling bonkers conspiracy theories. The reason he’s still the Republican front-runner for governor is because he’s modeled himself after Trump ― a strategy that some North Carolina political analysts predict will fail him in the general election in this swing state.

His GOP challengers include former Rep. Mark Walker, state treasurer Dale Folwell and trial lawyer Bill Graham, a relative newcomer to the race who has vowed to spend millions of dollars of his own money. Josh Stein, the state’s attorney general, is the leading Democratic candidate. The current governor, Democrat Roy Cooper, is term-limited out this year.

A Stein campaign spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.
 
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