"Do For Selfers are Doomed. Here's why" says Yvette Carnell

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technically making a youtube channel and monetizing it is a form of entrepreneurship.....So she's technically doing for self while telling others not to..

Exactly.

She just has a bullshyt business model.

You cant build a foundation and plan for the future off donations.

Thats probably why she strugglin
 

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Whenever i used to hear Boyce and Yvette's videos, i used to always agree more with Boyce. I think because Boyce was talking about stuff i wanted to know more about. So i went and looked up some stuff he talked about (ETFs, small business ideas, passive income etc).

My pops is a good man and was always involved in my life, but he's a lot older and isn't that well-versed with technology like that. He's out of touch with a lot of stuff. So he never told me that kind of stuff. He's the "just hold onto that job until retirement" type of guy. Like a lot of the older generations. They're very "safe" and when you start talking about ways to make money outside of your 9 to 5 they hit you with the :merchant:

If i had listened to other black ppl who told me "don't invest, that's too risky" and "don't do that, what if you fail" "don't do that, it won't work" etc then i'd be in the same exact position i was in back then. I know we talk about entrepreneurship and investments on here, but i don't think yall realize how many black ppl are still fearful (or against) this stuff.
I'm not saying (and never said) that this would "close the racial wealth gap" :beli:but i'm saying if i had been opposed to learning ways to make money outside of a day job, then i'd still be making the same amount i was then. The more money i make, the more it helps me and my fam/friends
 

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Its simple.

Babies gotta eat. Bills need to be paid. Money needs to be put away for the future.

My only beef with Yvette is that her plan doesnt lead to any of that. You gotta go out and get it cause nobody gonna give it to you.

We know the government is not coming, so the only rational choice from there... Is stack your paper and plan for the future so your children and grand children arent sitting around waiting for the government and wondering why ya bum ass aint save nothing for the future.

I understand shes a woman.

But most of us here are men... We should have that natural ambition and drive to conquer shyt out here.

Until the government comes, me and my nikkas gon be doing for self and doing for our families cause thats the only rational option

The women can wait around for the gov't but men supposed to be out here stacking paper and making plays.... Not sitting up on YouTube listening to shyt like this.

Exactly.
 

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Yvette fans, how am i lying about what she said? Even the title of the video itself is "Do For Selfers are Doomed, Here's why" That's pretty much a summary of what the video is. I didn't watch the whole thing but i did watch about 30 mins, that was enough to hear her views.

I'm not allowed to disagree? :mjlol:I didn't bring up her sexuality, call her any names or anything else. Yall are just being emotional. Quote where i called Yvette any names.
 

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other black ppl who told me "don't invest, that's too risky" and "don't do that, what if you fail" "don't do that, it won't work" etc then i'd be in the same exact position i was in back then.

maaaaan..... thats literally my whole family..... even my pops who's an entrepreneur himself tried to get me to be on some 9-5 shyt just to play it safe before I fully jumped out the window and was successful on my own.

when people say shyt like that, its because they dont believe you're capable of something that they never managed to accomplish, or they just want you to be safe to avoid failure and struggle.

in both scenarios, its just lack of faith. They dont believe you can do it. Period.

But when you finally succeed..... watch them start asking for tips and tricks and to borrow money.

shyt is ridiculous.

thats why alot of brehs who go out and be successful on their own are the most arrogant cause so many people like the Yvette Carnells of the world constantly tell them from a young age that you cant be shyt..... so when you finally end up with some shyt...... you start flexing hard and puffing ya chest out cause Its an uphill battle in every way,

the cacs not tryna see you shine (they purposely educate you with bullshyt in school instead of real knowledge thats gonna empower you)

your own people dont even believe in you (until you make some money then you become the neighborhood superstar)

the world dont even take you serious at first (they think you supposed to be shooting hoops or singing and dancing)

Its tough.

but regardless of the obstacles, we gotta get this fukking money
 

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"Do For Selfers" aka folks who think Black folks will go from the poorest race to rich by shoddy investment schemes.

Yvette has never said anyone as an individual should not be out here trying to get as much money as they can.

She has never been against investing as long as you are educated on whatever it is you are investing.

Boyce wasn't educated and is going broke by investing all of his money in some Asians bitcoin technology.

The only point she makes is that all 44 million AAs COLLECTIVELY will not improve socioeconomically unless government and banking intervention is done as history has proven for every single other race on the planet.

OP is a non-Black agent with at least 3 aliases running around TLR slick dissing Black folks.

Its the same 5-6 posters obsessed with Yvette despite her being so "wrong"...funny how that works lol.
 

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@Poitier

First let me say, i know we've had some beef on here before but as a man i can put that aside to talk about this :manny:so no problems with you bro.

I did admit in the OP that i'm not as worried about the collective as i used to be. My old threads on here, i used to be all about the collective, what i/we can do for the collective, etc. But i think within the past year or two, i've seen things that sort of made me realize that i can't do much for the collective. I'm not against it but i'm just not as worried about it anymore. I decided to just focus on my fam and i do still try to help other black people where i can.

"Do For Selfers" aka folks who think Black folks will go from the poorest race to rich by shoddy investment schemes.

I don't think what i'm doing will make us richer as a collective. It has made me and my fam much better off (i'm not rich yet but i'm way better off than i was before), but the collective? Probably not.

I'm definitely not into schemes, just regular old investments, business ownership, renting out some property etc. I never said it would make us become the richest race, i used to be worried about that, but i realized i had to focus on trying to make myself and my family rich first. I'm not where i want to be yet, but these things have DEFINITELY helped and things are looking much better. Because before i was just following the blueprint of just working a job, and wasting my disposable income.
 
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@Poitier
First let me say, i know we've had some beef on here before but as a man i can put that aside to talk about this :manny:so no problems with you bro.
I did admit in the OP that i'm not as worried about the collective as i used to be. My old threads on here, i used to be all about the collective, what i/we can do for the collective, etc. But i think within the past year or two, i've seen things that sort of made me realize that i can't do much for the collective. I'm not against it but i'm just not as worried about it anymore. I decided to just focus on my fam and i do still try to help other black people where i can.

I don't think what i'm doing will make us richer as a collective. It has made me richer (i'm not rich yet but i'm way better off than i was before), and it will make my fam richer, but the collective? Probably not.

I'm definitely not into schemes, just regular old investments, business ownership, renting out some property etc. I never said it would make us become the richest race, i used to be worried about that, but i realized i had to focus on trying to make myself and my family rich first. I'm not where i want to be yet, but these things have DEFINITELY helped and things are looking much better. Because before i was just following the blueprint of just working a job, and wasting my disposable income.

Then Yvette Carnell should not be your concern since she isn't against individuals investing after educating themselves.

Yvette is all for Black folks as individuals getting to the bag and getting paid what they deserve.

The only people who should have beef with Yvette are folks who disagree with her conclusions about how Blacks as a collective can change being THE permanent underclass.
 

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Then Yvette Carnell should not be your concern since she isn't against individuals investing after educating themselves.

The only people who should have beef with Yvette are folks who disagree with her conclusions about how Blacks as a collective can change being THE permanent underclass.

Yeah, she's cool with me.
 

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Yvette Carnell and all the clowns caping need to shut the fukk up.

This c*nt wants to control people who want to build something, fukk her.

She used to work for clarence thomas and shyt etc back in the day, since she wants to work with the govt, she should go back to where she belongs and stop bytching and being a debbie downer all over social media.

She's scared to team up with maxine waters and the rest, what a clown she is. :scust:
 

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I agree with both @Poitier and @Skrilla & @CorporateTrapper

Yvette isnt wrong. On paper, government intervention(not necessarily US Gov) is required to even out the inequality between races and invest in banking and infrastructure. This is how the gap was created in the first place alongside free slave labour and it’s the only way to reverse it.

“Model minorities” didnt just improve by hard work, they combined hard work with political lobbying and pressure to get a government bag. The issue is they’re owed far less than us.

However, in the mean time, everyone who has the knowledge and drive needs to focus on improving themselves and creating their own financial base. If a good percentage are taking care of themselves and their families then we’re good.

Brehs on here who are talking business should be linking up, investing and trying to get shyt popping instead of berating others.
 

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I agree with both @Poitier and @Skrilla & @CorporateTrapper

Yvette isnt wrong. On paper, government intervention(not necessarily US Gov) is required to even out the inequality between races and invest in banking and infrastructure. This is how the gap was created in the first place alongside free slave labour and it’s the only way to reverse it.

“Model minorities” didnt just improve by hard work, they combined hard work with political lobbying and pressure to get a government bag. The issue is they’re owed far less than us.

However, in the mean time, everyone who has the knowledge and drive needs to focus on improving themselves and creating their own financial base. If a good percentage are taking care of themselves and their families then we’re good.

Brehs on here who are talking business should be linking up, investing and trying to get shyt popping instead of berating others.

She is wrong. Nobody cares about her debbie downer data. She ran away from the govt but is telling us to work with them.

She wants to work with them using youtube, facebook, her blog etc, many of our people are so dumb man, it's insane.
 
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