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I've been listening to this women For over 10 years, she's cool.



That doesn't mean she's "good" though. Or really likes Black people - you will never know that.

I learn my lesson on this board talking about the Civil War - I was on there looking for info about my ancestor that fought In the Union Army. Most of them were so nice - I was like damn - maybe I was wrong about white people. That was until weeks later after I started looking around the message board -- I saw this post about Black people and getting reparations.

Those same White people were saying all types of racist ish. Like if they (black people) get reparations - I better get some for my families plantation that got burned down. And some was like we already paid reparations with the lives of the white man who died for their ancestors freedom.

Just all types of insensitive stuff. So, yeah they are nice - until you want something that is owned to you - or you speak up for yourself for something they can be attached too.
 

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Not a troll thread. We must understand people are capable of good deeds, but at the very core are they righteous? Because I've studied race and these "people" for years, I find racial discourse in Amerika comical. Would you say the following "people" are good?

  • Tim Wise
  • Jane Elliot
  • Shaun King
  • John Brown
Also, do you have white friends? Have you ever experienced racism?
I don't follow the 4 listed, but I do think there are good white folks. I'm friends with some of my professors and advisers from community college and a few of them are white. They were always kind to me and helped me move forward. Overt racist shyt only happened in grade school( and was met with violence:demonic:) when I first starting being around white people on a daily basis. Covert passive shyt here and there like clutching their belongings or dropping stuff at the store when I walk by:dahell:
 

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Dude what the fukk type of bullshyt, lazy ass thread is this?? :childplease:

@Reaganomics clearly is a troll with too much fukking time on his hands - somebody go tell this nikka to get at some bad bihs or something :heh:

Get your cac ass outta here and don't @ me again. I don't have a "troll" thread on my record.. meanwhile your threads:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/have-any-of-you-ever-heard-of-the-concept-mudsharking.491208/

I don't follow the 4 listed, but I do think there are good white folks. I'm friends with some of my professors and advisers from community college and a few of them are white. They were always kind to me and helped me move forward. Overt racist shyt only happened in grade school( and was met with violence:demonic:) when I first starting being around white people on a daily basis. Covert passive shyt here and there like clutching their belongings or dropping stuff at the store when I walk by:dahell:

How so? Friends, or friendly with? You over their house? Eating dinner? Confiding? Hitting the gym? Or do yall just smile and exchange niceties?
 

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I don't think putting "people" in quotes is necessary, that's pretty much the exact same rhetoric that neo-nazi who got punched in the face uses about jews. I don't think we should judge others "let ye without sin cast the first stone" etc. But if we are going to make judgement calls, I think the best way to do so is by comparing a person's actions against their words. So if you're criticizing white-supremacists for their racist values, which treat others as subhuman, by using their same ideological arguments, then your logic fails the rhetorical litmus test.

On a philosophical level, talking about "being at their core a righteous person" implies there's such a thing as a transcendental signifier like "righteous" or "good" or "virtuous". Words get their meaning from how they differ from other words, there's no metaphysical, one-to-one correspondence, like some platonic ideal. So the answer to the question: do 'good' white people exist? Is "No," because there's no such thing as "good" for any person to be, the same way there's no "evil" either.

This isn't just playing semantics (though it certainly is that), it's important to recognize how people get their individual meanings because it shows that one person's perception of "good" can be the complete opposite of someone else's, which causes people to view individuals with different values in an "us" vs "them" mentality. Once we get over this fact, maybe we can come to some pragmatic approaches toward global collaboration in order to achieve some world where we finally control our individual chaotic tendencies toward war and violence against the "Other" more so than we have in the past, ex: putting "people" in quotes when referring to those who are different in order to dehumanize them.
 
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so what about the oppression by individuals that look just like you¿
individuals in power abuse those they hold power over
this was true before europeans existed it's true even now

at the end of the day "black" is the majority and it's the divisiveness within us that allows the "white" minority to seemingly control everything
it's deception to credit euro folk for everything like they are some all powerful force

what has taken place is a result of the majority failing to keep love as the law
it's simple
humans regardless of "race" given the chance will abuse the opportunities they are given

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