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I don't think putting "people" in quotes is necessary, that's pretty much the exact same rhetoric that neo-nazi who got punched in the face uses about jews. I don't think we should judge others "let ye without sin cast the first stone" etc. But if we are going to make judgement calls, I think the best way to do so is by comparing a person's actions against their words. So if you're criticizing white-supremacists for their racist values, which treat others as subhuman, by using their same ideological arguments, then your logic fails the rhetorical litmus test.

On a philosophical level, talking about "being at their core a righteous person" implies there's such a thing as a transcendental signifier like "righteous" or "good" or "virtuous". Words get their meaning from how they differ from other words, there's no metaphysical, one-to-one correspondence, like some platonic ideal. So the answer to the question: do 'good' white people exist? Is "No," because there's no such thing as "good" for any person to be, the same way there's no "evil" either.

This isn't just playing semantics (though it certainly is that), it's important to recognize how people get their individual meanings because it shows that one person's perception of "good" can be the complete opposite of someone else's, which causes people to view individuals with different values in an "us" vs "them" mentality. Once we get over this fact, maybe we can come to some pragmatic approaches toward global collaboration in order to achieve some world where we finally control our individual chaotic tendencies toward war and violence against the "Other" more so than we have in the past, ex: putting "people" in quotes when referring to those who are different in order to dehumanize them.
Tldr: "white people shouldn't be held accountable for being inherently evil"

That was just a wall of text with no substance, basically asking people to feel sorry for you because you're a white piece of shyt
 

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No, it's hell because of white supremacy. We do revere our elders. My girlfriend went to an HBCU and took tons of black history classes due to her major and got a masters in it.

Im talking in a spiritual sense. What do you know about Afrikan spiritual systems. Im confused by your post. What does your gf have to do with this. What about you? I wouldn't say taking classes is honoring your ancestors. And ancestors encompass more than just those in the history books.
 

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Im talking in a spiritual sense. What do you know about Afrikan spiritual systems. Im confused by your post. What does your gf have to do with this. What about you? I wouldn't say taking classes is honoring your ancestors. And ancestors encompass more than just those in the history books.

She is an example of blacks learning about their past through schooling, she wasn't the only black in class. You weren't concrete with your statement about honoring the past, so I could've taken it either way. Did not know you meant spiritually.

I don't know anything about Afrikan spiritual systems. Her belief is we follow the white mans religion, and that's our downfall basically?
 

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Not a troll thread. We must understand people are capable of good deeds, but at the very core are they righteous? Because I've studied race and these "people" for years, I find racial discourse in Amerika comical. Would you say the following "people" are good?

  • Tim Wise
  • Jane Elliot
  • Shaun King
  • John Brown
Also, do you have white friends? Have you ever experienced racism?

Are there good pit bulls?

Are there good bears?

Are there good death row inmates?

Of course. There's a pit in existence that would protect you from a mountain lion. There's a trained bear out there that is genuinely pleasant.

No group is 100% anything.

So should you go befriending pit bulls and wait for the goodness to shine through? No. If you see a random pit bull, avoid it.

Let me ask a question of my own: are Black people supposed to be the model for these "good people"? I have my reservations about white people in this impersonal sense but I know niqqas that I have known since childhood that I wouldn't let ride in my car. I got family members that I wouldn't trust with dime bag money.
 

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I also know plenty of good white people who aren't racist, but I'm sure there are people of color who feel different based on their personal experiences.

I'm white and can tell you there are all sorts of good white people.....they just may be racist too. So whats the definition of 'good' were using?

I know white people who donate their time to causes, always willing to lend a hand, thoughtful, caring,hardworking people. Then I have heard them try to speak on politics and they are trying so hard to not sound racist, when its painfully apparent they are stereotyping and bigot at the least. In my opinion, it's not in their NDA, it's in their white privilege. Nothing is harder for a white person to see or understand or believe than their white privilege. Especially when they are are lower middle class.
 

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No. There is no such thing. 'White people' by definition are racists and bigots out to oppress any and everyone who isn't like them.

As far as the people you listed for examples......



I have no 'White' friends. I deal with Caucasians fairly until they show they can't be trusted.

My first experience with racism was when I was 8 and stabbed a 'White' kid for calling me and my little brother 'n1ggers'. Spent 3 hours in a jail cell waiting for my mother to come pick me up.​
 

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I've known some good white people that were neighbors of mine. Wendy and John were a married couple. No kids but had good hearts that you could feel the energy from. You can feel who doesn't like you but these two were so nice and friendly. For them I could tell they didn't see me as anything other than a fellow human.

White people do you see from the responses in this thread how suspicious we are of you. For most of us our default thought is that you are racist, hateful and evil. We have good reason to be distrustful of you if you can see what we go through.
 

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I ran a Catholic charity for a few years and the entire Board of Directors were old white folk. They gave money, but also had an unfavorable view of the people they served. Lets not mistake good deeds with good people. And lets not confuse altruism with egoism.
mannn talk that shyt my nikka.... white people the type to be cool with you, under certain conditions - while not even respecting you.....
Thank you for saying this. I was giving food to a charity a while back, usually when I gave there was this white woman in casual attire there who simply said stuff like "Thank you for giving." "We appreciate the food." "Come back and see us sometime." Generally being nice, welcoming and inviting.

The last time I gave there was a different white woman there in business attire, she gave off a vibe that threw me off(seemed full of herself too). I came to donate the food and she walked me back to the kitchen and on our way back all of sudden "So what made you decide to donate?" I couldn't answer because why do you need a reason to donate? I went "Oh, I just wanted to help out." Which made her go "I know that's what I just asked you, what made you want to donate?" <--her tone switched as if annoyed. I couldn't come up with an answer, I didn't donate for a 'reason' so I said "I just wanted to." I noticed she was speed walking ahead of me so I sped up to walk next to her which seemed to annoy her more. Then she went "So where did you get the food from?" Which took me off guard and kinda confused me to the point where I said the wrong store. I had never been asked these questions before and I didn't feel welcome.

I thought about it later after I left but this woman was trying to accuse me of stealing food and bringing it to the charity. Goes back to what the second poster is saying about some of them simply not having respect for you no matter what.
 
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Are they righteous? Strong morals? Peaceful? Have the best intentions for you?


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Lazy ass answer. What race are you if you don't mind sharing?

Is it really though?

What kinda world view you going to have when you automatically classified billions of people as bad solely because their skin tone .

Ignorant as fukk and basically you're not trying or even hoping for a better world to live in
 

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Is it really though?

What kinda world view you going to have when you automatically classified billions of people as bad solely because their skin tone .

Ignorant as fukk and basically you're not trying or even hoping for a better world to live in

My stance on these "people" comes from some of the greatest thinkers and leaders known to man. It also comes from history and experience. I truly believe deep inside of ALL white "people" lies evil. I have never met one that has not revealed their true nature... and I've been around for plenty.
 

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If someone made this thread regarding any black group half the board would call for them to banned.
 
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My stance on these "people" comes from some of the greatest thinkers and leaders known to man. It also comes from history and experience. I truly believe deep inside of ALL white "people" lies evil. I have never met one that has not revealed their true nature... and I've been around for plenty.

Well that is your choice

You have chosen a very narrow world view.

I see you use the world evil, as if humanity is as simple as a sci-if fantasy tale where you can classify a persons existanxe into one main driving force

But you don't seem Ill natured, but this can come back to harm you, say your child falls in love with a white person, will you let your prejudiced mind interfere with your child's happiness?
 
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