Do Some Of You Really Want Homophobia Completely Out Of Hip Hop?

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They exist. Eminem angered and offended a lot of white people with his music. A lot of white parents didn't like Eminem.

You don't even have to jump the rail to go to the parents, I know white boys that hate em and refuse to listen to him just because he probably just reminds them of how white they actually are :laugh:

The white dude who loves eminem is like a cliche, these "real hip hop" clowns have been giving him shyt even in his prime just to be contrary to anything popular. He has gotten a lot of hate from that whole sect. of fans since he made the transition into the mainstream. Not enough to really hurt his sales.
 

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Even aside from parents, there's white people that don't like Eminem for the reasons many people don't: his image and his content.

And I have yet to see them or hear them. Most white people either like him or don't have an opinion about him. The portion of white people who hate him are very small.
 

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And I have yet to see them or hear them. Most white people either like him or don't have an opinion about him. The portion of white people who hate him are very small.

There's possibly a lot more white people who hate Eminem than you think. Why? Because the same thing that makes him appealing to whites also makes him appalling to them.
 

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Homophobia in hip hop is fine people are allowed to have discriminatory views whether it's homophobia sexism racism ageism or against religion. However, looking at the landscape of the USA right now the entire northeast (aside from penn) and the west coast (aside from Oregon) allow gay marriage and the views of people living in these areas are predominantly non-discriminatory....so if you want to lump in with the republicans and rednecks down south that don't want minorities eating in restaurants beside whites that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own views
 

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Homophobia in hip hop is fine people are allowed to have discriminatory views whether it's homophobia sexism racism ageism or against religion. However, looking at the landscape of the USA right now the entire northeast (aside from penn) and the west coast (aside from Oregon) allow gay marriage and the views of people living in these areas are predominantly non-discriminatory....so if you want to lump in with the republicans and rednecks down south that don't want minorities eating in restaurants beside whites that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own views

99 percent of Rap doesn't even mention any kind of homophobia. It was WAY more prevalent in the golden age of Rap than now. Art in general shouldn't be monitored for political correctness and not trying to step on toes.
 

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Feminization has alot to do with ur sexual behavior..

A gay man is is the closest thing to a literal "bytch nnikka"

So because drake presents himself as a heterosexual male, even while openly exhibiting many of the traits of this evil feminization and feminine behavior that the gays and librul media are campaigning so hard for, he's somehow less of a "bytch nikka" than a military veteran who strapped up and laid his life on the line for the country?

Nah, asap rocky's wardrobe is feminzation, drake is feminization, kayne west is doing more for feminization than any random dudes blowing each other in the privacy of their homes. And this is all shyt that you go to bat for.

You support bytch made music, fashion and tendencies, you just don't want bring the actual words gay/feminine into the equation to maintain some kind of separate image from that which you already immerse yourself...kinda like a homo.

:yeshrug:

Heres ur whole problem with ur whole rhetoric
There is nothing tangible for us to have any reason to equate the perverseness of homosexuality to our skin color or race
Its just an idea that has been pushed on us by mainstream media and we are all of a sudden supposed to accept this idea that being a homosexual is as ingrained in an individual from birth as is our race

I don't care about that, it ain't about equation it's about prejudice. Racism and bigotry isn't possible without prejudice. While you can't say racisim = homophobia they are both built on the same foundation, and they are both becoming less and less of a factor within the collective consciousness. You want nikkas to deal with the fact that the hood has been phased out of the game in favor for suburbanites being more in touch with their "feels" and feeling comfortable enough with themselves to DO ALL OF THE fakkit shyt AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ACTUALLY CALL THEMSELVES fakkitS...you gotta deal with bigotry and prejudice taking a hit as well.

:whew:



Ur coming at me from a position of "all is permitted"...when thats not hip hop

Says who? Where are these hip hop rules and when did we amend them to give the nikkas you dikk ride a lane to sashay in?

:wow:
 

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I agree art should not be monitored. And homophobia in hip hop is fine. I was merely reflecting what demographic tends to be homophobic. Southerners, republicans, definitely some overlap with racists. Liberal, democrat voting people living on the west coast and northeast tend to be less accepting of views like that.
 

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So because drake presents himself as a heterosexual male, even while openly exhibiting many of the traits of this evil feminization and feminine behavior that the gays and librul media are campaigning so hard for, he's somehow less of a "bytch nikka" than a military veteran who strapped up and laid his life on the line for the country?

Nah, asap rocky's wardrobe is feminzation, drake is feminization, kayne west is doing more for feminization than any random dudes blowing each other in the privacy of their homes. And this is all shyt that you go to bat for.

You support bytch made music, fashion and tendencies, you just don't want bring the actual words gay/feminine into the equation to maintain some kind of separate image from that which you already immerse yourself...kinda like a homo.

:yeshrug:



I don't care about that, it ain't about equation it's about prejudice. Racism and bigotry isn't possible without prejudice. While you can't say racisim = homophobia they are both built on the same foundation, and they are both becoming less and less of a factor within the collective consciousness. You want nikkas to deal with the fact that the hood has been phased out of the game in favor for suburbanites being more in touch with their "feels" and feeling comfortable enough with themselves to DO ALL OF THE fakkit shyt AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ACTUALLY CALL THEMSELVES fakkitS...you gotta deal with bigotry and prejudice taking a hit as well.

:whew:





Says who? Where are these hip hop rules and when did we amend them to give the nikkas you dikk ride a lane to sashay in?

:wow:

Drake is often accused of being a softie..being more caring for woman's feelings and more in touch with his feelings but that is not feminine
Thats just hyporbole that is used
A Homosexual man is an actual feminine male in this greatest sense of the term

U scream prejudice but how come u are not screaming about the prejudice against pedophiles, against nikkaz who are attracted to animals
In this culture if a grown nikka was to say he's attracted to 7 year old girls..whether or not he acts on these desires..he would get clowned and ostracized out the fck of hip hop

Like I said u are coming from a position of "All is permitted"
My disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle is one based on morality..but u dismiss this as bigotry because of this asinine idea that homosexuality is as ingrained in the genetic makeup of an individual as our skin color is...when nothing tangible tells us this

Its simple...mainstream media has continued to bombard ur mind with the "Im born this way" flawed rhetoric and now ur using that as ur foundation to criticize and decide where and how Hip Hop should go and how it should treat these groups

This aint no booth discussion anymore...trolloff

Now we gon have a legit, balanced logical discussion on the issue..

Are there ppl practicing the homosexual lifestyle in hip hop?? Yes Most Likely
Does that mean we have to no longer look at it as a shameful thing??? Nope

As I said earlier
Hip Hop is a culture and genre that runs on the back of the strong black alpha male
A homosexual male is one that desires and takes part in the sexual behavior that is meant for the female

Answer me this....and it is relevant to the discussion
Do u believe in right and wrong or are u one of a nihilist belief?
 

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jesus. i forgot just how creepy this cover is. imagine that's how asleep at the wheel the XXL staff was with the 50 slobbing that they greenlit this.
 

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Nah breh, i'm not going to follow you down the fakkit hole.

:umad:

You trying to feign intelligence talking about nihilism and morality, bestiality and a bunch of other nonsense to try and side step the facts...

How YOU feel about gays and morality is how YOU feel, nothing more nothing less. You are entitled whatever disagreements you want to have, what you aren't entitled to is speaking for the entire culture's "do's and dont's". You speak on hip hop being such a reflection of society well this is apart of it. And you can blame the media when we live in a parallel universe where television predates homosexuality. :laugh:

I want hip hop to be a true representation of the collective consciousness within it's own space, homosexuals and homophobes should be represented accurately, fortunately like someone pointed out, those particular brands of ignorance are being dominated by the tea party peckerwood types.

As I said earlier
Hip Hop is a culture and genre that runs on the back of the strong black alpha male

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Nah breh, i'm not going to follow you down the fakkit hole.

:umad:

You trying to feign intelligence talking about nihilism and morality, bestiality and a bunch of other nonsense to try and side step the facts...

How YOU feel about gays and morality is how YOU feel, nothing more nothing less. You are entitled whatever disagreements you want to have, what you aren't entitled to is speaking for the entire culture's "do's and dont's". You speak on hip hop being such a reflection of society well this is apart of it. And you can blame the media when we live in a parallel universe where television predates homosexuality. :laugh:

I want hip hop to be a true representation of the collective consciousness within it's own space, homosexuals and homophobes should be represented accurately, fortunately like someone pointed out, those particular brands of ignorance are being dominated by the tea party peckerwood types.



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"homophobia is idiotic"

That statement is more or less what Im tackling and that there is nothing idiotic in disagreeing with faggorty

All that other shyt u sayin :mjpls:


Fck up bytch nikka :umad:


U rii doe

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nikkaz need to go at the real threats... mufukkaz really causin harm and shyt... Like the nikka :lupe: said "hunger's yo enemy, but you cant kill that"
Dont get me wrong we need shyt like No Homo and pause and all of its derivatives but nikkaz need to address real shyt.
 

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Lot of hardcore republican Tea party fukks in here.
I dont support bush mccain pailin or romney so i cant relate with these people
 
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