Do today's Black artists have soul?

[ISO]

dead all the quack theories it's about to be 2020 folks moving different.........if you prefer old music there is more than enough to last you a lifetime but things change & that's something you gotta accept*

 

[Sbp]

The question is why? when he seems to be a sure bet.

Well he is a black R&B singer no label is trying to promote that in 2019. This aint the old days

 

[ISO]

How many carribean artist got soul breh?? Slim to none

 

[010101]

All change aint the same. There's leveling up and there's husting backwards. What are Black musicians doing right now, IYO?

it is an expression of the life being lived

life now ain't nothing like life back then

part of why that throwback shyte never pops is because the artist who make it never connect with the current moment

the folks trying to go back most often are out the loop & antisocial

like i said if you feel the music of the past is what you want there is more than a lifetimes worth there for you

it is simply unreasonable to expect individuals with a completely different life experience to express themselves the same way artist from passed eras did

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[Legal]

That's a good question. I wasn't sure how to answer that one, until I read an interesting reply later in the thread...


I never knew how much the big companies had bought out smaller black owned radio stations and record labels, so thanks for putting me on as far as that goes





From the record label's perspective, it's all a matter of power, influence, and control. It's easier to find some lame-o off the street with no talent, and market that person as the "next big thing" than it is to search far and wide to discover once-in-a-lifetime talents like Whitney Houston and Luther Vandross. Especially when it comes to cultivating that talent, coaching them to be better, and investing time/money/etc.

On top of that, these new millennium lame-o's off the street are puppets and will go along with anything you tell them as a record label executive. They have no real talent themselves, so they're helpless without the executives and the producers working for the label. They don't have the business sense to buy up publishing and flip it for billions like Michael Jackson did. ( ) They're not smart enough to see through the racism of the industry and call it out like Pac and Prince did. All in all it's a win for the suits and a loss for the consumer because the suits are controlling the narrative completely.

Artists with true talent tend to know their work and will speak up if they feel the art is being compromised.
The record companies dont want these public or private battles with artists anymore
Like you said, grab a wet behind the ears kid and keep threatening him that he's lucky to be there and it can be taken away instantly
That kid will do what you say

Or you can find a genius talent who doesnt want to rock the boat like Dre
Dre will keep quiet and do whatever Jimmy says as long as Jimmy keeps him safe, rich, and out of trouble

I like the perspectives here

There's definitely a element of exploitation, as now more than ever, artists are signed to four or five different labels/imprints. There are too many artists out here that have no clue who they're actually signed to, and haven't bothered to look at their paperwork. As a result, they aren't making anywhere near as much money as they should off their work, have shytty terms dictating that they owe an absurd amount of albums (even though labels act like they don't know what an album is any more), and effectively HAVE to crank out music at a high rate to recoup for the small army of people they're signed to, and make a little change.

It's been said forever, but the thing that ruined the music business is the business, not the music.

 

[FeverPitch2]

 

[010101]

Bruh it even that deep.

We got artist that legit don't know how to actually sing out here. The sad thing is they have good voices, but don't know how to sing.

Shiit ain't right

i agree ain't nothing deep at all

simply love it or leave it alone

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[FeverPitch2]

it is an expression of the life being lived

life now ain't nothing like life back then

part of why that throwback shyte never pops is because the artist who make it never connect with the current moment

the folks trying to go back most often are out the loop & antisocial

like i said if you feel the music of the past is what you want there is more than a lifetimes worth there for you

it is simply unreasonable to expect individuals with a completely different life experience to express themselves the same way artist from passed eras did

*

my question was "Do today's Black artists have soul?"

 

[010101]

that beat got the vibe of arthritic joints & tiger balm*

 

[Booker T Garvey]

it is an expression of the life being lived

life now ain't nothing like life back then

part of why that throwback shyte never pops is because the artist who make it never connect with the current moment


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bruh there use to be a song that came on the radio called "i'm so alone" by men at large.

it's a song about them missing their momma that passed away....

you mean to tell me people peoples mommas don't die anymore?

 

[Rollo Goodlove]

shyt is facts i fukk with y'all tho

 

[010101]

my question was "Do today's Black artists have soul?"

like i said there is no one definition of soul ask a billion individuals get a billion different answers

deeper than the ocean & truth gonna hurt you by future

worth it & king group by young.thug

to say these songs are soulless would be a critique on the technical elements of it

or you not connecting with the cultural expression & lingo

but its an encapsulation of emotion it is given in a different way than artist of the past but it shares that distinction of being a vehicle for the expression of inner feelings & thoughts

soul to me may not be soul to you everyone will not be moved by the same things

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[010101]

bruh there use to be a song that came on the radio called "i'm so alone" by men at large.

it's a song about them missing their momma that passed away....

you mean to tell me people peoples mommas don't die anymore?

maybe more songs with mentions of lost loved ones in rap/hip-hop than anywhere else

you might just have ears that have a set preference

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[Absolut da poet ®]

What are we defining as soul ?

A better question is do the buyers of today's music have soul ?

They sell what you buy

So Stop buying bullshyt

Here's a random list of mostly current artists it's whatever on whether they have soul but do the listeners ?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

maybe more songs with mentions of lost loved ones in rap/hip-hop than anywhere else

you might just have ears that have a set preference

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post a song where one of these superthug rappers talk about missing their momma's from the past decade...a whole song too not just a verse