Do u think dna test should be mandatory at childbirth

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But you trust the government with the legitimacy of your marriage (and to make your relationship legitimate with marriage) and to get you your child support if you need it huh

You take the government with you everywhere in that little phone of yours btw

Picking and choosing

Lol child support? I’m quite comfortable I don’t need to request child support. I make my own money and come from a good family. I’m good in that regard. Why make assumptions about me?

Marriage is different. I can get great tax breaks and incentives being married legally. Seems fairly logical to me. However, imagine the government having everyone’s DNA. They already have too much info on me. I don’t want them having my genetic make up too. That’s my DNA and my offsprings DNA. You don’t joke with those things. Plus, taxes would sky rocket. Do you know how much it would cost the state to do DNA tests on every baby born?
 
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You're integrity is intact but not everyone else is. they say up to 30% of people out there raising kids not their own in marriages. That's a pretty big number. How do people combat that type of fraud and deception? Most people would rightly be offended if asked to do so but mandating it would deal a severe blow to cheaters.

The government does not need to be involved in handling any samples all they have to do is draft the law and it could include protections to address whatever fears people have. They don't have to ever come into contact with those records unless of course you find out you are not the real parent and take something to court.

In reality your spouse could do this behind your back after the child is born regardless. :manny:


I didn’t know 30% of people are doing this that’s pretty high. I don’t know how we deal with the problem. I think people should work it out between themselves, not get the state involved.

If they draft the law and the government is not paying for it then what happens if you can’t afford the test and it’s mandatory? Do you go to jail? Pay a fine? A lot of problems can come into this if the state gets involved and I don’t mean in the relationship context. If my husband asked me for a DNA test I’d be very offended but I’d do it. They’d still be a bit of bitterness in me like ‘damn, he really doubts me’.
 

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Lol child support? I’m quite comfortable I don’t need to request child support. I make my own money and come from a good family. I’m good in that regard. Why make assumptions about me?

Marriage is different. I can get great tax breaks and incentives being married legally. Seems fairly logical to me. However, imagine the government having everyone’s DNA. They already have too much info on me. I don’t want them having my genetic make up too. That’s my DNA and my offsprings DNA. You don’t joke with those things. Plus, taxes would sky rocket. Do you know how much it would cost the state to do DNA test of every baby born?


I said “if” you so desired


Of course you would. MArriage benefits you more than the man and also grants you leverage. You can still use the trust argument used about the paternity on making the relationship legitimate with marriage. WE all know damn well
the first thing people think of when it comes to marriage is not tax breaks but the Mann “stepping up”. It’s to prove the man really loves you. Then it makes handling assets easier.

If you have money for a ceremony and a ring, you can get a test. Plus you’ll have money because tax breaks remember?
 

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How is the birth of a child not between the mother and father. If the mother is runni ng game that's on their relationship. U really wanna rely on the govt to be MORE involved in what u do? Smh
but it's not... because the govt gets involved the second that woman decides it does.. they already can swoop in and tell you to pay for a child that ain't yours... even after finding it ain't yours.. they can regulate when you can see that child and what you must do in order to see it... where you have to meet to see it... who can be around that child.. where the mom can move in relation to the dad... and when... and what for.... how much you make and how much should go to the child.... i mean shall we go on

the govt is involved in everything from it's SS # to it's death certificate and everything in between... and in it's parents lives and paychecks

but when it comes to actually knowing who the real parents are.... naaaaah that's too far :comeon:
 

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but it's not... because the govt gets involved the second that woman decides it does.. they already can swoop in and tell you to pay for a child that ain't yours... even after finding it ain't yours.. they can regulate when you can see that child and what you must do in order to see it... where you have to meet to see it... who can be around that child.. where the mom can move in relation to the dad... and when... and what for.... how much you make and how much should go to the child.... i mean shall we go on

the govt is involved in everything from it's SS # to it's death certificate and everything in between... and in it's parents lives and paychecks

but when it comes to actually knowing who the real parents are.... naaaaah that's too far :comeon:

Again.

It's up to the MOTHER to dictate all that. NOT the govt from BIRTH.

If the mother is shady yes what u said will happen but to just make it mandatory is ridiculous in my opinion.

The dude NOR her side dude is giving birth.

It's on everyone involved. NOT the govt is my point.
 
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I said “if” you so desired


Of course you would. MArriage benefits you more than the man and also grants you leverage. You can still use the trust argument used about the paternity on making the relationship legitimate with marriage. WE all know damn well
the first thing people think of when it comes to marriage is not tax breaks but the Mann “stepping up”. It’s to prove the man really loves you. Then it makes handling assets easier.

If you have money for a ceremony and a ring, you can get a test. Plus you’ll have money because tax breaks remember?

How does marriage benefit me more than the man? What leverage? The incentives and tax breaks benefit both parties. Again, I work, in a divorce scenario I could be vulnerable because I have my own assets. Marriage can benefit both parties if you both bring something to the table.

The idea is that paternity tests are mandatory, that means the government has to get involved. If the state is running this operation it will cost a lot and means taxes would be raised. If it’s a private company that will deal with this, the demand for paternity testing goes up then so does the price. I could afford this theoretically but what about couples who can’t afford it? Do they get penalised because they can’t afford this mandatory test. A ceremony and getting a ring doesn’t mean you have extra money. You can get rings for $40 or cheaper. You can have a small ceremony or go to the town hall for free. Most people aren’t getting expensive rings or having big ceremonies. They’re ordinary people trying to get by. What happens to them?
 

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How does marriage benefit me more than the man? What leverage? The incentives and tax breaks benefit both parties. Again, I work, in a divorce scenario I could be vulnerable because I have my own assets. Marriage can benefit both parties if you both bring something to the table.

The idea is that paternity tests are mandatory, that means the government has to get involved. If the state is running this operation it will cost a lot and means taxes would be raised. If it’s a private company that will deal with this, the demand for paternity testing goes up then so does the price. I could afford this theoretically but what about couples who can’t afford it? Do they get penalised because they can’t afford this mandatory test. A ceremony and getting a ring doesn’t mean you have extra money. You can get rings for $40 or cheaper. You can have a small ceremony or go to the town hall for free. Most people aren’t getting expensive rings or having big ceremonies. They’re ordinary people trying to get by. What happens to them?


I’m not speaking on a solely mandatory scenario but I’ll bite. If most people out here are planning as careful for this as you say they are then why would this be a problem?They’re out here for the tax breaks and many benefits right, more so than Puritan values right? so in the mandatory scenario wouldn’t they have already taken account of the test? You realize in America that so many regular people go into debt over stupid shyt right? There’s too many people showing out and funding every industry related marriage, from alcohol in bars to the wedding planners, to divorce attorneys. People who can’t afford children have children every day, what happens to everyone involved? They go through a period of suffering. Plan your family better and don’t “forget” to take birth control on “accident”
 
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