Do we die everytime we go to sleep?

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I get why you'd think that but it makes no sense

How can you no longer have a body yet experience something that you experience when you have one?

You need a body to experience sleep so how can you lose the body at death yet have an identical experience?

No you dont:mjlol:

Its all about the mental and being totally unconscious from a mental standpoint.

You actually lose control of your body when you're in deep sleep. YOU aren't even consciously controlling your own breathing anymore
 

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No you dont:mjlol:

Its all about the mental and being totally unconscious from a mental standpoint.

You actually lose control of your body when you're in deep sleep. YOU aren't even consciously controlling your own breathing anymore
Lol, so you're consciously controlling your breathing throughout the day? You keep saying breath in, breath out huh? :patrice:. I have no clue what you were replying to but I just felt like focusing on that point.
 

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No you dont:mjlol:

Its all about the mental and being totally unconscious from a mental standpoint.

You actually lose control of your body when you're in deep sleep. YOU aren't even consciously controlling your own breathing anymore

U don't need a body to experience sleep?

Can you name something without a physical body hat experiences sleep?

And you don't even consciously control your breathing when you're awake if we being technical
 

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Lol, so you're consciously controlling your breathing throughout the day? You keep saying breath in, breath out huh? :patrice:. I have no clue what you were replying to but I just felt like focusing on that point.

U don't need a body to experience sleep?

Can you name something without a physical body hat experiences sleep?

And you don't even consciously control your breathing when you're awake if we being technical

Yes, while you're awake everyday, every single breath you take YOU physically do it. You've just never thought about it. Just like you control when you blink your eyes, you just don't NOTICE that you're doing it or have ever really thought about it.

I think this is why people snore when they are in a deep sleep. It has something to do with the fact that they are no longer physically controlling their own breathing.

No, I can't name something without a worldly body that experiences sleep, I don't think you're understanding the concept if the OP
 

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Yes, while you're awake everyday, every single breath you take YOU physically do it. You've just never thought about it. Just like you control when you blink your eyes, you just don't NOTICE that you're doing it or have ever really thought about it.

I think this is why people snore when they are in a deep sleep. It has something to do with the fact that they are no longer physically controlling their own breathing.

No, I can't name something without a worldly body that experiences sleep, I don't think you're understanding the concept if the OP
This is all wrong. No shade homie, because I know people on here get offended mad easily, but you need to pick up a book.

I'll get you started, try holding your breath as long as you can....you will never be able to kill yourself this way. Why?

Snoring simply has to do with airway constrictions. Its just sound passing through your breathing passageways.
 
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Dreamless, deep sleep is the Self's "somewhat" return to it's natural state - PURE consciousness.

I say somewhat because in the true natural state of the Self there's both PURE consciousness AND awareness.

The three levels of reality are the waking state, the dream state, and the dreamless sleep state.

Just like when you are sleeping and having a dream, you wake up to the "waking state" and realize that you were dreaming, there is a state beyond the waking state where you realize that the waking state too is a flawed perception of reality. This is the Self's true nature of pure consciousness AND awareness - "enlightenment," "liberation," etc.;

This world is illusory. It exists, but the way we view it is flawed. It's a misconception, like mistaking one object for another.
What if I only have actual dreams like once every 6 months or so? For some reason I rarely dream anymore. This started back in like 2010.
Does this mean I'm super conscious? Am I a super human? :ohhh:
 

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This is all wrong. No shade homie, because I know people on here get offended mad easily, but you need to pick up a book.

I'll get you started, try holding your breath as long as you can....you will never be able to kill yourself this way. Why?

Snoring simply has to do with airway constrictions. Its just sound passing through your breathing passageways.
No offense breh, I'll research the topic. This is just something I've thought about
 

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It's a misconception. Just like the dream world is for all intents and purposes "real" until you wake up (and then the dream world immediately ceases to exist and you realize you were only dreaming), the waking state ie; the everyday world of action and experience is only "real" so long as you remain in that state.

When you're in deep, dreamless sleep, the only thing that is experienced is pure consciousness. There's no concept of passage of time, or anything else, just pure existence. And when you wake up from this state, you feel refreshed and energized....that's because deep, dreamless sleep is a hint at what true reality is, minus awareness.

To answer the OP, deep dreamless sleep is kinda like death, except what makes death different is that the physical body is no longer a useful vessel for the Self to experience the "world" according to it's accumulated karma, so it moves on to another body. But even this transmigration of the soul from one body or another is also happening only within the boundaries of empirical reality. In absolute reality, it isn't happening at all. It's all just a projection of pure consciousness, which is the only "thing" that really exists. Everything else is illusory.
Sosa how can we know deep dreamless sleep is the true state if we don't "experience" it? Your use of consciousness in its description is confusing to me cause inst consciousness a state of awareness and we aren't aware in dds.

Also I'm assuming you believe in reincarnation from your third paragraph. Do you think all souls are unique or some are copies?
 

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Yes, while you're awake everyday, every single breath you take YOU physically do it. You've just never thought about it. Just like you control when you blink your eyes, you just don't NOTICE that you're doing it or have ever really thought about it.

I think this is why people snore when they are in a deep sleep. It has something to do with the fact that they are no longer physically controlling their own breathing.

No, I can't name something without a worldly body that experiences sleep, I don't think you're understanding the concept if the OP

Uh no u do not consciously control your breathing

That is actually one of the main fundamentals of meditation to learn how to at least temporarily control your own breathing for a change

And I'm one of the few that actually does understand the concept of OP
 

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What if I only have actual dreams like once every 6 months or so? For some reason I rarely dream anymore. This started back in like 2010.
Does this mean I'm super conscious? Am I a super human? :ohhh:
iirc all people dream just most just don't realize it. But if we go off what @GetInTheTruck is saying then there's a state where we don't dream which would make my statement false, which makes all this so damn interesting. I love learning about sleep and dreams as well as hearing others views about it.
 

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Uh no u do not consciously control your breathing

That is actually one of the main fundamentals of meditation to learn how to at least temporarily control your own breathing for a change

And I'm one of the few that actually does understand the concept of OP
Ill look more into the topic.
 

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There was a song by the band P.O.D. Called " Am I awake"

The chorus was " am I awake or is this ( speaking on life) just a dream"

Which got me thinking, is this life a dream and our dreams are possibly the reality? I quickly ditched the dream part being reality, because I've had some crazy dreams and in any " state" they beyond ridiculousness.

Maybe we all remain in one constant state and the life we percieve we are living when we're "awake" is just another realm. Maybe there is no such thing as " time" but in this realm we are ran by it


Probably doesn't make sense, but again all interesting to think about
 
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