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Possibly the woman men want to save is the manic pixie dream girl?
#1 The Manic Pixie Dream Girl (Tropes vs. Women) - YouTube
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Also asylums do still exist, but they are private now and you pay out of pocket. They are not funded by the state anymore.


watched the video. I've actually seen the movie Almost Famous and the female character doesn't really fit the trope she was describing.Possibly the woman men want to save is the manic pixie dream girl?
#1 The Manic Pixie Dream Girl (Tropes vs. Women) - YouTube
i've noticed a lot of chicks with this character have mental issues.
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Also asylums do still exist, but they are private now and you pay out of pocket. They are not funded by the state anymore.
not that there's anything wrong with that 
watched the video. I've actually seen the movie Almost Famous and the female character doesn't really fit the trope she was describing.
Also in Garden State which i have also seen, Nathalie Portman's character did have her own issues and family life. The movie just happens to not be about her just like chick flicks usually focus on the girl's story and issues rather than the guy's issues.
finally, there's nothing wrong with a woman serving as a muse to an artist. If she inspires him and if she knows this and still chooses to hang out with him, and even enjoys being his muse, why criticize it? No one is forcing these women to do anything.
Also they made Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim into one in the movie, my bro who reads a lot of comics assures me that she was more fleshed out in the comics.I'm really starting to think that she skimmed through the movies looking for these tropes without paying serious attention. Haven't seen the other movies though so i can't comment.I agree the chick from almost famous does not go with manic pixie dream girl. The best idea of one is the chick from eternal sunshine. People tend to overuse the example, but it's kind of a fantasy land chick. A lot of times these girls do have emotional problems too.Also they made Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim into one in the movie, my bro who reads a lot of comics assures me that she was more fleshed out in the comics.
I don't think it's a sexist trope, to be honest. Chicks have their own male fantasy tropes they make up that are similar. Man I'm too high right now to have an appropriate convo on this but I'd like to say more haha.
Yeah, They are called the sucka for love ass nikkas, the nikkas that believe in the "mythical friendzone" who's shoulder is to wipe her tears, money to support her dreams, and body to be pleasured by his owns hands, while some other nikka she trying to save is breaking her back in.![]()


I'm really starting to think that she skimmed through the movies looking for these tropes without paying serious attention. Haven't seen the other movies though so i can't comment.
I guess the girl from Scott Pilgram meets that criteria but that movie is almost like a weird parody.
I just don't see why these types of tropes are such a bad thing even if they exist. Even if they are plot devices to help the main character evolve or whatever, i don't really have a problem with it. they don't just use girls for these types of roles either. Sometimes the main character will meet a quirky/eccentric guy and befriend him. sometimes it'll be a guy and a girl (Fight Club). They still serve the same purpose.
to be honest, i think it's never really about just saving the girl to save the girl with those supposed "white knights". i think it's about doing it for yourself so you can say you did it and soak that victory up. it's about taking someone who is messed up and turning them into something they want them to be. and because it's that it, it never works. any time you begin to apply that principle to someone who doesn't have that in mind for themselves, you're gonna fail. when you're more concerned about you happiness as the end game when you're dealing with people, you're likely to fail...
but these types of characters aren't limited to female characters.Well some feminists would argue that certain tropes are bad because they continue sexist stereotypes.
Yeah I can see that. It's a bit of a selfish thing on the other person's side. Most of the time these people that are being "saved" don't want to be saved. It may be a stereotype, but it really is true that you have to want to save yourself to be saved.
but these types of characters aren't limited to female characters.