Do you believe in aliens?

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@Nkrumah Was Right is bushed right now but when you unbushed hopefully you remember this line. I invite you to relearn about the God of Israel

Genesis 9:8-17

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/holdup-i-though-eating-dogs-was-an-asian-thing.937047/page-6#post-47031251

So they fell from Heaven and became a rainbow

 

[TEH]

Aka the champagne papi problem …

 

[IVS]

Ive been here the whole time.

 

[MMS]

So they fell from Heaven and became a rainbow

let there be light?

"heaven" is translated as firmament in Genesis 1 rather than Asgard

and we do only perceive the realm of visible light

rainbow shrimp tho are more impressive

 

[Caca-faat]

Circular reasoning has NOTHING to do with math. Here's something you haven't considered: we are the only ones that made it, or, we are the only ones left (for those unfamiliar with the Filter).

Declaring something a certainty when there is no evidence supporting it, not even math unless you make a TON of assumptions that are philosophical, doesn't make something mathematically impossible.

Each hypothesis is equally valid until shown otherwise, thus, we don't know.​

How could I not have considered that we are the only ones that made it when that is the whole point of mentioning the filter in the first place? We don’t have proof either way, I’m not invalidating your point that there is no proof, but once again based on the fact that we are here means the universe is tuned for life.

we dont know this, we dont even know whats in the ocean

hell its arugable that we dont really know everything on the ground

so the question about aliens is from a POV of hubris

to me, animals, grasses and trees all the wildlife you think of...are the real aliens. But we think in terms that makes it difficult to see how this could be possible

Humanity is full of Hubris to begin with, that’s why Stephen Hawking was opposed to SETI because we don’t know their intentions, we’re assuming they are going to be as diplomatic as we would like or possibly less intelligent rather than hostile. I mean hell we sent them all they needs to know about us and our coordinates on the Golden Record, we’re just flesh bags ripe for the picking.

 

[MMS]

Humanity is full of Hubris to begin with, that’s why Stephen Hawking was opposed to SETI because we don’t know their intentions, we’re assuming they are going to be as diplomatic as we would like or possibly less intelligent rather than hostile. I mean hell we sent them all they needs to know about us and our coordinates on the Golden Record, we’re just flesh bags ripe for the picking.

whats even wilder is that the space SETI might not be the SETI that we should be concerned with but this Seti

Seti I - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

say perchance he is praying to his "higher self" and Dreamworks pictures did that for him...how could that influence reality? @DoubleClutch @010101

“	But one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty!	„
	~ Pharaoh Seti I to Rameses, also the same quote that lead to Rameses' decent into villainy.

“	The Hebrews grew too numerous. They might have risen against us. (Moses: Father, tell me you didn't do this.) Moses… sometimes, for the greater good… sacrifices must be made.	„
	~ Seti I admitting the massacre of Hebrew children to Moses.

Pharaoh Seti I (The Prince of Egypt)

Pharaoh Seti I is the overarching antagonist of DreamWorks' 2nd full-length animated feature film The Prince of Egypt, which is based on the Book of Exodus. He is the husband of Tuya, the father of Rameses, and the adoptive father of Moses (the protagonist of the film). Although most of his...

villains.fandom.com

in the movie...they did depict the burning bush and there is an explicit directive to not do such a thing

Spoiler

Goals​

Ensure that he stays in power (even if it meant the execution of thousands of innocent children; succeeded until his death).
Pass the thrown to Rameses as Pharaoh. (succeeded).
Enslave the entire Hebrew people into working forever in Egypt to build his pyramids and the empire of Egypt and not let them escape. (failed through his son Rameses)

He was voiced by Patrick Stewart, who also played King Goobot in Nickelodeon's Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, King Buffo in the Courage the Cowardly Dog series, Dr. Jonas in Conspiracy Theory, Rafe Bentley in Masterminds, the Master of the Hunt in Futurama, John Bosley in Charlie's Angels, Darcy Banker in Green Room, and Avery Bullock in American Dad!.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/do-you-believe-in-aliens.973618/page-7#post-50522944

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

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How could I not have considered that we are the only ones that made it when that is the whole point of mentioning the filter in the first place?

Because you keep dismissing the WHOLE hypothesis and use circular reasoning rather than evidence to do so.​

We don’t have proof either way, I’m not invalidating your point that there is no proof, but once again based on the fact that we are here means the universe is tuned for life.

You aren't invalidating it by.......trying to invalidate it using a fallacious philosophical argument.....?

Is the 'fine-tuned universe' an illusion?

For decades physicists have been perplexed about why our cosmos appears to have been precisely tuned to foster intelligent life. It is widely thought that if the values of certain physical parameters, such as the masses of elementary particles, were tweaked, even slightly, it would have...

phys.org

 

[010101]

@MMS LOST*

 

[MMS]

@MMS LOST*

 

[Caca-faat]

Because you keep dismissing the WHOLE hypothesis and use circular reasoning rather than evidence to do so.

You aren't invalidating it by.......trying to invalidate it using a fallacious philosophical argument.....?

Is the 'fine-tuned universe' an illusion?

For decades physicists have been perplexed about why our cosmos appears to have been precisely tuned to foster intelligent life. It is widely thought that if the values of certain physical parameters, such as the masses of elementary particles, were tweaked, even slightly, it would have...

phys.org

I keep coming back to the same point, based on all the reasonings I’ve presented, the likelihood of there being life is more plausible than not. That is simply a fact. If we are here why wouldn’t there be others? When has there been only one version of anything in science?

 

[MMS]

I keep coming back to the same point, based on all the reasonings I’ve presented, the likelihood of there being life is more plausible than not. That is simply a fact. If we are here why wouldn’t there be others? When has there been only one version of anything in science?

science itself is a filter

it basically says. Logic and reason can explain all things. So things that cannot be explained logically or with reason are either ignored or the question is attacked that brought up the situation

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I keep coming back to the same point, based on all the reasonings I’ve presented, the likelihood of there being life is more plausible than not.

That's more like it since before, you kept saying it was mathematically impossible, which is absolutely false. It is JUST as plausible that there is no other life in the Universe.​