Do you believe there was a conspiracy against Pac?

[Canada Goose]

Nah, there was no conspiracy against Pac.


The man foolishly decided to jump a known killer and paid the ultimate price for it.


Besides a good portion of the Black community didn't even like Pac while he was alive, its not like Pac was some MLK or Malcom X type breh, he was just a rapper.


Pac is one of my favorite rappers and is in my top 5 BTW

 

[Bonk]

breh everybody around pac was telling him to chill and stop hanging around gang bangers...

the night he died he helped jump baby lane and that beef got him killed when really he had no real reason to be part of it....

I'm in LA and know the backstories since forever...







Pac was a celebrity ass nikka with a good message who got corrupted by his own fame and arrogance...

I mean to be honest, the fact he was repping cali like he's from here says ALOT about the type of nikka he was

All these guys are phony including Ice T & Snoop. Ice T likes acting like some super duper gangster but some guy fukked his wife & he didn’t do shyt.

2pac was a troubled soul with a short fuse who went through a lot in his life. So it’s understandable why he always acted the way he was. It had nothing to do with taking a gangster persona. Troubled people always have a short fuse - it’s normal.

Most gang members aren’t even tough. Some of you watch too many movies. I’m sure anyone from LA can corroborate this cos I know for a fact that not everyone in a gang is active - only a few are.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Pac got killed over the same stupid ass destructive gang shyt that's been killing black men for decades.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[The Fade]

he had to pay a settlement to those 2 cops i heard

heard he was extorted by jdl too

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Of course there was, doesn't negate his reckless movements but if you listen closely to his music he knew what time it was, and a lot of shyt people chalked up to paranoia ended up coming to light later.

Nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.

His own introspection and anti-mimesis is the Barnum effect that describes what Black folks (specifically males) go through in this country. Which let's be honest here, rap has always had some sort of predictive model which forecasts one's abrupt ending in life - Scarface has already died 1000x and is still on this Earth to tell the story.

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

But in regard to his death nah just made a dumbass move, not even gonna say it was tryna be a gangbanger shyt. That talk didn’t even become a narrative til past few years for most folk

Hothead to a fault to sum it up

 

[97Pac]

The man was killed with a lot of eyes watching yet they still can’t find his killers apart from crackhead gang members claiming it without being jailed.

That’s enough conspiracy for anyone who knows what conspiracy entails.

Pac-Nas-Kanye-50cent (my Mt Rushmore).

Las Vegas police department didn't give a shyt and wanted the headline to disappear as fast as possible. It was just another dead black man to them on top of the fact he shot two police officers and got away. Pac didn't actually want to live you can hear it in his music, he had been through so much shyt and was just ready to go.

 

[Savvir]

All these guys are phony including Ice T & Snoop. Ice T likes acting like some super duper gangster but some guy fukked his wife & he didn’t do shyt.

2pac was a troubled soul with a short fuse who went through a lot in his life. So it’s understandable why he always acted the way he was. It had nothing to do with taking a gangster persona. Troubled people always have a short fuse - it’s normal.

Most gang members aren’t even tough. Some of you watch too many movies. I’m sure anyone from LA can corroborate this cos I know for a fact that not everyone in a gang is active - only a few are.

having a shot fuse does not equal riding around with established gang members you have only known a few years and jumping nikkas that are certified killers....

Pac was playing a role that he didn't grow up in... like I said... the fact he repped cali says a lot... troubled boy who grasped onto anything to boost his self image

Ice T wife getting fukked has nothing to do with him giving Pac life saving advice in the 90's

 

[SunZoo]

Nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.

His own introspection and anti-mimesis is the Barnum effect that describes what Black folks (specifically males) go through in this country. Which let's be honest here, rap has always had some sort of predictive model which forecasts one's abrupt ending in life - Scarface has already died 1000x and is still on this Earth to tell the story.

Self fulfilling prophecies are real, as is COINTELPRO. Scarface is was/is not a direct decendant of civil rights movements getting banned from MTV for his political rhetoric.

The 'conspiracy' surrounding Pac's life to doesn't begin or end in Vegas.

 

[Bonk]

having a shot fuse does not equal riding around with established gang members you have only known a few years and jumping nikkas that are certified killers....

Pac was playing a role that he didn't grow up in... like I said... the fact he repped cali says a lot... troubled boy who grasped onto anything to boost his self image

Ice T wife getting fukked has nothing to do with him giving Pac life saving advice in the 90's

Breh, you’re funny. He was signed to a record label run by gangs. What was he supposed to do since those were the people he’s around 24/7? He never claimed any gang.

Nah, he didn’t play any role - he was like that before he went to Deathrow. Or was he playing any role when he was getting involved in shoot outs in the Bay before he went to Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he was disrespectful to Jimmy Henchmen before Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he shot 2 cops?

Some of you just need to understand that the guy was a trouble soul & he expressed it in his music. It’s tough having a crackhead & moving from slums to slums whilst being around drug dealers, gangsters & killers. That was 2pac’s life from Baltimore to Marine City & it’s just natural for him to have that in him. Combine that with him having anger issues & that’s 2pac.

Even when you look at the crew he was hanging in Queens at the beginning of his career - they were shooters. Or was E Money Bags not a gangster? And did he act that as well?

Ice T just says too much like he’s a super- gangster. If you’re really about it (like Ice T claims) when someone fukks your wife & goes public to shame you - you’ll handle your business. You think someone is going to fukk J Prince’s wife & violate him publicly like that guy did Ice T?

You nikkas need to stop trying to shyt on the man’s legacy. He was the realist. Jim Jones is out there gangbanging at age 50 & he doesn’t get this type of critique.

 

[Bonk]

Las Vegas police department didn't give a shot and wanted the headline to disappear ass fast as possible. It was just another dead black man to them on top of the fact he shot two police officers and got away. Pac didn't actually want to live you can hear it in his music, he had been through so much shyt and was just ready to go.

And that’s the conspiracy.

 

[Savvir]

Breh, you’re funny. He was signed to a record label run by gangs. What was he supposed to do since those were the people he’s around 24/7? He never claimed any gang.

Nah, he didn’t play any role - he was like that before he went to Deathrow. Or was he playing any role when he was getting involved in shoot outs in the Bay before he went to Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he was disrespectful to Jimmy Henchmen before Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he shot 2 cops?

Some of you just need to understand that the guy was a trouble soul & he expressed it in his music. It’s tough having a crackhead & moving from slums to slums whilst being around drug dealers, gangsters & killers. That was 2pac’s life from Baltimore to Marine City & it’s just natural for him to have that in him. Combine that with him having anger issues & that’s 2pac.

Even when you look at the crew he was hanging in Queens at the beginning of his career - they were shooters. Or was E Money Bags not a gangster? And did he act that as well?

Ice T just says too much like he’s a super- gangster. If you’re really about it (like Ice T claims) when someone fukks your wife & goes public to shame you - you’ll handle your business. You think someone is going to fukk J Prince’s wife & violate him publicly like that guy did Ice T?

You nikkas need to stop trying to shyt on the man’s legacy. He was the realist. Jim Jones is out there gangbanging at age 50 & he doesn’t get this type of critique.

when everybody who was actually around Pac during his time in cali says the same things about him...

but a random internet nikka not from LA has a different take 20+ years after the fact...

who do you think I'm gonna believe?

whatever issue you got with ice T, go DM him and deal with that...

I'm just speaking on what he saw pac doing... and what he actually spoke to pac about...

 

[Uncouth Savage]

biggie understood his postition
pac apparently did not and was too unpredicatable
what appears as chaos is a painting
hundreds of years in the making
you will never see him with the brush

do not try to paint your own shyt

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

Breh, you’re funny. He was signed to a record label run by gangs. What was he supposed to do since those were the people he’s around 24/7? He never claimed any gang.

Nah, he didn’t play any role - he was like that before he went to Deathrow. Or was he playing any role when he was getting involved in shoot outs in the Bay before he went to Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he was disrespectful to Jimmy Henchmen before Deathrow? Was he playing any role when he shot 2 cops?

Some of you just need to understand that the guy was a trouble soul & he expressed it in his music. It’s tough having a crackhead & moving from slums to slums whilst being around drug dealers, gangsters & killers. That was 2pac’s life from Baltimore to Marine City & it’s just natural for him to have that in him. Combine that with him having anger issues & that’s 2pac.

Even when you look at the crew he was hanging in Queens at the beginning of his career - they were shooters. Or was E Money Bags not a gangster? And did he act that as well?

Ice T just says too much like he’s a super- gangster. If you’re really about it (like Ice T claims) when someone fukks your wife & goes public to shame you - you’ll handle your business. You think someone is going to fukk J Prince’s wife & violate him publicly like that guy did Ice T?

You nikkas need to stop trying to shyt on the man’s legacy. He was the realist. Jim Jones is out there gangbanging at age 50 & he doesn’t get this type of critique.

You sound very naive and immature throughout this thread but this post stands out.

Everything you said in this post sounds incoherent like you're panicking/scrambling and shyt.

Pac stans

 

[Bop Gun]

Regardless of how influential his music was, Tupac was the cause of his own downfall. Instead of embracing the street life, he should have chosen to illustrate his thoughts through poetry and stuck to dancing.

We have lost a lot of talented brothers to the street life