Do you consider Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan evil?

[Roland Coltrane]

Do you consider Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan evil? I heard someone say morality is subjective and good and evil are points of views though.

What do you all think?


Gauls hated Caesar, Romans loved Caesar. Europe and Asia hated Genghis, the Mongols (his tribal people) loved him. Persians, Medes, and other Eurasian steppe tribes hated Alexander, Macedonians loved him.

No mention of Hannibal, why is that

He had Rome shook af

 

[Elim Garak]

Yep conquers are evil period imo.

 

[010101]

all empires are rotten at the core*

 

[Roland Coltrane]

controlling the flow and thoughts of people on a global scale, and overall tyrannical behavior.

this more accurately applies to outrage culture imo

 

[Luck]

What about what @CharlieManson said in this thread?

I’m not reading some clown named after a white serial killer’s posts

At least not intentionally

 

[Devilinurear]

I’m not reading some clown named after a white serial killer’s posts

At least not intentionally

Charles mansion didn't kill any one

He convinced his white followers to kill a pregnant woman to start a race war.

 

[Reece]

Murder and slavery were not virtures even at that time. In Persia slavery was against the law.

Can’t agree there. If that’s the case then what were the Moors? You think they were doing a good mission killing tons of white dudes and making sex slaves of the white chicks? You can’t hold your modern day morality against people that lived centuries ago. In the year 3000 people will look at us as savages. We still fight each other for land and resources the same way the Persians and the Macedonians did. It just changed to drones, fighter jets, bombs and heavy artillery. We have no need for physical slavery anymore but people are still very much oppressed economically which fuels the entire system in similar ways. All that said, yes, if he lived and tried the same shyt in 2019, Alexander would be a considered a tyrant and slightly crazy

 

[Devilinurear]

Can’t agree there. If that’s the case then what were the Moors? You think they were doing a good mission killing tons of white dudes and making sex slaves of the white chicks? You can’t hold your modern day morality against people that lived centuries ago. In the year 3000 people will look at us as savages. We still fight each other for land and resources the same way the Persians and the Macedonians did. It just changed to drones, fighter jets, bombs and heavy artillery. We have no need for physical slavery anymore but people are still very much oppressed economically which fuels the entire system in similar ways. All that said, yes, if he lived and tried the same shyt in 2019, Alexander would be a considered a tyrant and slightly crazy

Again alot of these people won so there morals are perceived as good. Speak to their enemies and you were hear how bad they are.

 

[Reece]

Again alot of these people won so there morals are perceived as good. Speak to their enemies and you were hear how bad they are.

When I read about the sacking of Tyre and the genocide of the Greek cities in Persia, I got a little sick to my stomach. If it offers you any comfort, Alexander died at 32 of painful fever, his best friend died from similar causes, and his empire crumbled right afterward. His boys divided up the empire for themselves...they stopped his son from inheriting the throne, then killed him, the mom, Alexander’s sister, his cousins and Alexander’s half brother. Karma came back for him. His family just had to pay it sadly

 

[Dave24]

And as far as the thread title “evil” is based on what exactly because lookin thru the Old Testament...

idk what exactly is considered evil and what isn’t for these time periods.

Do you think the murdering and slavery aspect of what they did was evil? If not what would julius caesar and genghis khan and alexander have to do for you to consider them evil? You dont think they went to hell when they died?

 

[Reece]

The ancient world was totally different to today and there was a very real brutality about it. It was truly a time to kill or be killed. That doesn't excuse Alexander and Caesar for the war crimes they committed, but it helps us understand why they did what they did, and that almost anybody else in their position among their peers would have done the same. You can't show your enemies any more mercy and morality than they'd show you.

That being said people were still cognisant about who constituted a real enemy, and people condemned their leaders for being warhawks fighting unjustifiable illegal wars. Consider that while the Roman people supported Caesar's campaign in Gaul they had bitterly opposed Crassus' campaign against the Parthians, which happened at the same exact time Caesar was tearing up Gaul. In the end Crassus' soldiers mutinied and gave him up to the Parthians, who chopped off his head then poured molten gold down his throat to punish his legendary greed.

Alexander too had to deal with greater and greater unrest in the ranks the further east he pushed, because they didn't see how Indians were enemies of the Greek world. This culminated in another wholesale mutiny on the banks of a river in Punjab, because the soldiers just weren't having it. They knew the only reason he wanted to invade India was to gratify his own ego, and they weren't going to die over something like that.

Alexander would’ve went to China if they let him

 

[The_Truth]

All these guys were warlords responsible for murdering masses of people. That is evil.

Anybody who argues good and evil is just a matter of perspective is a sociopath.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Yes

Chopping up people.. kids.. women.. with axes is evil.

You niqqas minds are corrupted with demons. Really trying your best to justify insane bloodthirsty greedy behavior. On industrial scale

 

[The Fire]

I don't care what noone says. Alex was a bytch nikka who couldn't hang. Caesar gets my respect though off the strength of Rome alone. I admire the Romans way of living. Very structured with equal opportunity if you put in the work. I feel like America is closest to the roman systems of old. Genghis Khan was one of the realest nikkas to ever do it. Casually conquer the world brehs.

A lot of what you associate with Rome was after Julius Caesar. He wasn’t very special

 

[The Fade]

Caesar did not like those Gauls man. He fukked with them hard.. he feared them cause he knew what theyd do

They took the city way before his time and then sold it back to them