Religion/Spirituality Do you really believe in Karma?

Do you really believe in Karma?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 36.9%
  • No

    Votes: 53 63.1%

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My concept of karma isn't one of immediate feedback to what you've done , good or bad. In my view, karma is the response of the world to your contribution. If you lead a positive life, you will contribute to greater positivity that ultimately impacts you. If you lead a negative life, you will experience a world of greater negativity.
so what about when so much bad happens to good people
 

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I strongly believe that the universe is a single organism that we all experience and perceive on an individual level. As such, it may be hard to nail down exactly how karma works. But in general, I believe that putting out positive energy does lead to positive results. However, those positive or negative outcomes may not directly effect what I perceive to be 'me' as an individual.
 

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you cant look at the shyt that goes on from the beginning of time till today and believe in some cosmic goal keeper unless you are trying to be an idiot or desperately need a crutch to rely on. if you need the coping mechanism, then it might be a little bit beneficial in that sense, but it can also cause people to not take action to really improve things.
 

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THAT is an excellent question.



i imagine it would, depending on what the action itself is and what the results of that action are. a pure action starts with a pure intention.



where is the contradiction?



the best written explanation i can provide in a short amount of time is this, the Kybalion:

http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf

it's a very good introduction to the different aspects of universal law.
You said causing any other creature pain is immoral. Self-defense causes pain
 

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if you're looking for a scientific explanation for the law of karma youre headed in the wrong direction. i dont think its quantifiable for the human mind at this point.

So, no shred of evidence or any kind of fact to base this belief on?
 

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so what about when so much bad happens to good people

the idea is that karma is not contained to one lifetime, but rather spans the entirety of a being's existence.

I strongly believe that the universe is a single organism that we all experience and perceive on an individual level. As such, it may be hard to nail down exactly how karma works. But in general, I believe that putting out positive energy does lead to positive results. However, those positive or negative outcomes may not directly effect what I perceive to be 'me' as an individual.

:obama:

You said causing any other creature pain is immoral. Self-defense causes pain

but if i do nothing then i am the one who feels pain. so either way the creation of pain is unavoidable. it's simply a matter of what pain is caused to which person and for what reason. so in this scenario who has the justification for causing pain, the attacker or the person being attacked?

So, no shred of evidence or any kind of fact to base this belief on?

depends on what you consider evidence. i assumed from the title of the thread this is a philosophical discussion. and in that context if people's experiences and observations of this world and the "spiritual" or "unseen" world counts as evidence then we have much evidence to consider.

on the other hand if you're looking for a university published, peer reviewed scientific study verifying the existence karma, then i cant help you.
 

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the idea is that karma is not contained to one lifetime, but rather spans the entirety of a being's existence.

Has anyone ever proved that a person get's more than one lifetime?
 

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depends on what you consider evidence. i assumed from the title of the thread this is a philosophical discussion. and in that context if people's experiences and observations of this world and the "spiritual" or "unseen" world counts as evidence then we have much evidence to consider.

on the other hand if you're looking for a university published, peer reviewed scientific study verifying the existence karma, then i cant help you.

When did you observe or experience life after death and the unseen world?
 

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Read about the Cambodian Genocide. The Rwandan Genocide. The Holocaust. The Nanking Massacre. Millions of people raped, tortured, pulled from their families, starved, murdered, and almost no accountability. Karma needs to put in some work, because I doubt a guy who rapes and kills 240 men, women and girls, only to get to have a normal life afterward believes in karma. Because he doesn't have to. Because he got away with it.
 

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Has anyone ever proved that a person get's more than one lifetime?

you mean proved scientifically?

cmon breh you know the answer to that question.

When did you observe or experience life after death and the unseen world?

i experience the unseen world all the time (assuming we have the same definition of "unseen world"). people who have practiced can do it through certain forms of meditation, others can experience it during certain traumatic events, and almost anyone can do it using psychedelics.

also science actually allows us to observe quite a bit of the unseen world. anytime you can observe atoms you are right near the source. dark matter still has us :dwillhuh: though
 

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The argument that good people are suffering so karma can't exist is a weak one. You don't know what people are paying for, your business should be worrying about yourself. The idea that "I did something good so now I'm going to expect a reward because I deserve it" is a selfish one. That's not how karma works.

As for past lives the video I posted earlier in the thread gives you an idea of the philosophy behind that belief. Like I said, it is logical....whether you choose to believe it or not because of lack of scientific evidence is up to you :manny:

I'll post that vid again since it's some pages back:



when he says the "body changes" he means that as you get older, your body changes from child, teenager, to adult, to old man/woman, etc....but the soul remains unchanged.
 

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i experience the unseen world all the time (assuming we have the same definition of "unseen world"). people who have practiced can do it through certain forms of meditation, others can experience it during certain traumatic events, and almost anyone can do it using psychedelics.

also science actually allows us to observe quite a bit of the unseen world. anytime you can observe atoms you are right near the source. dark matter still has us :dwillhuh: though

So 'the unseen world' which anyone can define as anything, is something you see all the time when you close your eyes.

Life after death which is a bit more specific, you haven't experienced.
 
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