Do you think the NCAA will be able to keep this business model up forever?

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

For the 50th time...

Scholarships!!! Jesus.

Scholarships are compensation, you're right. So since we all agree that they should be paid, we're just haggling over price.

For the amount of money generated, a scholarship isn't enough.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

cause Coach K isn't an athlete

I get your point but at least he can use his fame to write books, speaking engagements, paid to do a radio show, TV, etc. he has other avenues to make income. "Student-athletes", not so much

 

[No_bammer_weed]

It's an imperfect system. Even the pros have an imperfect structure. Hell, it's America. We show everything on TV from pros to college to high school to little league baseball to spelling bees and everything comes with million dollar price tags. No one said it was all fair.

Would you please stop comparing big time college athletics and respective programs to spelling bees, and diving teams. Its compromising your position.

Again, we live by the principals of a market-centered, capitalist economy. There are few markets bigger than the NCAA. Not paying the players who generate that revenue isnt "imperfect", its immoral by the laws governed via a capitalist system.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Would you please stop comparing big time college athletics and respective programs to spelling bees, and diving teams. Its compromising your position.

Why not? Little league baseball generates millions and spelling Bees generate money too, both have multi million dollar packages on ESPN. Who's the product that generates the revenue? The kids. Who gets compensated? Not them. Where do you see the difference between that and the NCAA?

 

[PortCityProphet]

I get your point but at least he can use his fame to write books, speaking engagements, paid to do a radio show, TV, etc. he has other avenues to make income. "Student-athletes", not so much

thats part of coach K's job. they can get a job if they want I don't see anything stopping them

 

[No_bammer_weed]

cause Coach K isn't an athlete

Am I missing something here? Are student athletes not Americans, living under American law?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

thats part of coach K's job. they can get a job if they want I don't see anything stopping them

My point is they can't maximize their star power. Hell, even Jordan Lynch could make money off his play in Urbana

 

[PortCityProphet]

Am I missing something here? Are student athletes not Americans, living under American law?

every company has its rules. if you don't like em don't participate no one is forcing you.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Why not? Little league baseball generates millions and spelling Bees generate money too, both have multi million dollar packages on ESPN. Who's the product that generates the revenue? The kids. Who gets compensated? Not them. Where do you see the difference between that and the NCAA?

Well, we could create a separate argument for why spelling bee participants, and little league players arent commodities like big time, household college athletes are, but why do that in the first place? If someone can make a case that kids in spelling bees deserve the money, and can adequately negotiate compensation --- hey, more power to 'em. Thats the way the free market operates.

I dont see how one has anything to do with the other. Fact of the matter is I can make a strong case for why the NCAA is an immoral racket, and players deserve compensation. Thats the debate here.

 

[Birnin Zana]

I am not in favor of straight up payment as much as I am in favor of getting rid of the restrictions they have on guys. I understand that it would be tricky paying guys, especially paying them what they are worth when you have so many players just on the football team and then you have to consider the other sports. I totally get that. However there is no good reason guys shouldn't be able to use their sports prowess and celebrity to come up on some free or discounted shyt. There is no reason a guy who becomes a star shouldn't be able to do ads or other things to profit from his likeness. The rules as currently constituted are basically on some "You mine bytch!" type shyt. No other college student, even those on scholarship, have those type of limitations placed on them.

This.

If a company wants to sponsor a player because of their fame, and the player agrees and gets paid to do so, AND the agreement is legal, why shouldn't it go through?

Students on an academic full-ride scholarship can do what they want as long as they maintain their GPA. They can earn money (and good money if they parlay their skills) while in school.

This should be the same for the athletes. The school doesn't pay them. However, the athletes have the right to make money outside of the university, as long as its legal. Also, like the academics ( and as it is today), they need to maintain their GPA to be eligible.

The school gets their high-profile atheletes and the profits that come with it. The athletes have an opportunity to make some good dough.

 

[PortCityProphet]

My point is they can't maximize their star power. Hell, even Jordan Lynch could make money off his play in Urbana

can of worms man. how do yall picture that working cause i'd like to know.

 

[PortCityProphet]

Well, we could create a separate argument for why spelling bee participants, and little league players arent commodities like big time, household college athletes are, by why do that in the first place? If someone can make a case that kids in spelling bees deserve the money, and can adequately negotiate compensation --- hey, more power to 'em. Thats the way the free market operates.

I dont see how one has anything to do with the other. Fact of the matter is I can make a strong case for why the NCAA is an immoral racket, and players deserve compensation. Thats the debate here.

interesting choice of words

 

[No_bammer_weed]

every company has its rules. if you don't like em don't participate no one is forcing you.

So the NCAA is a company now...interesting. I didnt know one of the "rules" a company could create is not paying employees for revenues earned and generated. Thats news to me.

 

[Birnin Zana]

That sounds good until it comes to recruiting. If Nike can throw cats more endorsements than anyone else where you think all these kids gonna go. Oh a billionaire oil tyc00n needs a new endorser...that 5 star QB is a good lookin kid. I'll throw him a milli he can endorse my company and go to my alma
I can't think of a way to pay them that doesn't open a can of worms

The way I see it, how is it any different than it is now? The top athletes more or less go to schools in the same 4-5 conferences. I wouldn't be surprised if Nike (using your example) had an influence in it somehow themselves.

Again, the academic, music, and other full-ride student can earn money outside of school as long as it's done legally. Why can't the players?

 

[PortCityProphet]

So the NCAA is a company now...interesting. I didnt know one of the "rules" a company could create is not paying employees for revenues earned and generated. Thats news to me.

no but that's what i'll call them. and if someone signs up for it they can get away with it cause they know what they are getting into they know the rules they have to abide by.
yall are talkin like this kids fall off the turnip truck and don't know what's goin on.
I used to want players to be paid too, then i went to college and saw true freshman RBs driving Denali's on 22s struggling these cats are not.