again, what you're debating is who has a better skillset or whatever, that's not who's working harder. those are two different things. this shouldn't be this confusing for people in here. having a skillset doesn't mean you work harder. going to college doesn't mean you work harder. some of yall really view labor on some ego and job title shyt. "i have a degree so i work harder". that's like someone who went to college for art trying to shyt on a tattoo artist that was self taught. "i have a masters in art and i work in my own studio where i only have to do one painting a quarter, i work harder than the tattoo artist that works 40 hours a week and directly deals with customer issues." this is how yall sound. this thread is very telling about what some of yall think "hard work" means.