Does anyone wonder how our life would have been if instead of our ancestors coming to America they ended up in South America?

[horizon]

So many threads on here wouldn't be created if yall just read every now and then

 

[Klaus Schwab]

I already acknowledged that police brutality exists. What I mean by mass shooting is a white domestic terrorist shooting anyone black that’s shopping at a supermarket or a church.

What difference does it makes if it's a "white supremacist" or the police pulling the trigger?

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

The separation and relative segregation plus being a minority population ironically allowed us to develop a distinct identity.

Latin America and the Caribbean imported way more Africans, but the small white population and tropical disease meant lots of death for Africans and whites down there. They had to just keep importing Africans while America mostly stopped bringing new Africans over around 1807. Only like 5% of all enslaved Africans ended up in the United States.

For all the shyt we deal with, I'd much rather be in our situation with our culture building this country than to be in a place that erases my identity on some "blanquamiento" and "mejorar la raza" type shyt. Most Black Americans that look remotely "black", claim their blackness. Latin Americans gotta be damn near 99% African before they say "Black."

Caribbean Blacks seem to retain more of the African heritage/tradition but they are the majority in many of those countries so it makes sense. We have an outsized impact despite always being a minority here.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

with as many born colombians i know here in atl, it's quite obvious living here is better

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Brazil: at least 21 people killed during police raid in Rio favela

Death toll puts the incident among Rio’s deadliest police operations in recent history

www.theguardian.com

Rio de Janeiro asks why its cops kill so many black people

Activists are increasingly pushing back

www.economist.com

The OP's ignorance is stunning.

 

[peppe]

im from Brazil so

 

[DreadBrown]

Some of you should be embarrassed making these kinda threads

You sound like white people

How else do you think black people got to central and South America?

 

[Wiseborn]

Nobody would think about you if you were born in Latin America. I remember being a kid watching the world cup wondering why Colombia and other Latin American countries had so many black people but never saw that represented here. Cuba and many other latin american countries had to deal with constant slave revolts by their black population that are marginalized because they didn't succeed and the governments whitened their population in response.

Look at Paraguay. Not black, but they made racial mixing a major goal. And their pure indigenous population suffers greatly. What the Latin American governments have done is downplay race, or try and get people to not think about it in favor of Nationalism. Fidel did the same shyt, even while revered as some savior. Meanwhile, black people are at the bottom of the totem pole everywhere. The U.S. never managed to do that. Black Americans are special. But all our ancestors suffered greatly, regardless where they settled.

Correct.

Really ADOS are the only people who think of themselves and BLACK. and that includes Africans (I kind of give Africans a pass because they are the vast majority in their countries)

Literally They're having an election in Colombia Tommorow and a Black Woman is the Vice President and although every Black person seems to dig her no one said they were voting for her because she is Black. They are voting for her because she's a leftist.

That being said the "republican" candidate did plaster this video all over social media:



To put this in context. Buenaventura is 95% Black and basically when people mention the Pacific region it's a euphanism for Black people.

Francia Marqez is from Buenaventura and hasn't really made a video about the region.

That being said there's murals all over the hoods in Cali (the Atlanta of Colombia) bigging her up.

 

[Wiseborn]

The main reason ADOS has such a Black idenity is because white people as a whole never wanted to intergrate with us. Unlike Latin America there wasn't massive plantations filled with slaves (the average US Plantation had less than 5 slaves) and Black people were never the majority in the US so if white men did marry Black women like that Black People would'v dissapeared a long time ago.

 

[swampfox]

We were already here anyway. Dont sleep.

 

[mykey]

Nobody would think about you if you were born in Latin America. I remember being a kid watching the world cup wondering why Colombia and other Latin American countries had so many black people but never saw that represented here. Cuba and many other latin american countries had to deal with constant slave revolts by their black population that are marginalized because they didn't succeed and the governments whitened their population in response.

Look at Paraguay. Not black, but they made racial mixing a major goal. And their pure indigenous population suffers greatly. What the Latin American governments have done is downplay race, or try and get people to not think about it in favor of Nationalism. Fidel did the same shyt, even while revered as some savior. Meanwhile, black people are at the bottom of the totem pole everywhere. The U.S. never managed to do that. Black Americans are special. But all our ancestors suffered greatly, regardless where they settled.

 

[Taadow]

Bet I never lost one minute of sleeping, worrying ‘bout the way things might’ve been
big wheels keep on turnin’, PROUD Mary keep on burning

Rolling
rolling
rolling on the river

 

[Cyrus' Wife]

Afro Latinos are in an arguably much worse state than Aframs across the board. Less representation, VASTLY less wealth, more violence, often worse birth rates surprisingly enough. At least in the US black people were able to exploit American liberty propaganda - literally none of that exists in Latin America. Afro Brazilians are really fukked in particular. Even worse wealth inequality than the US and over 60k homicides annually.

This.

It seems Afro-Latinos are in a worse situation all around. How many have a real chance at upward mobility and to get out from under racist oppression? I mean we're systematically oppressed here in America too but I'm from the DMV and although there are hoods around, there were also a lot of middle to upper class Black neighborhoods as well and I had the opportunity to see many successful lawyers, doctors, politicians, entrepreneurs, etcetera living around me so I knew it was possible to have a comfortable middle to upper class life despite the obstacles. Is that even a possibility for Afro-Latinos in most Latin American countries? I doubt it but I could be wrong. Good question/thread op.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Correct.

Really ADOS are the only people who think of themselves and BLACK. and that includes Africans (I kind of give Africans a pass because they are the vast majority in their countries)

Literally They're having an election in Colombia Tommorow and a Black Woman is the Vice President and although every Black person seems to dig her no one said they were voting for her because she is Black. They are voting for her because she's a leftist.

That being said the "republican" candidate did plaster this video all over social media:



To put this in context. Buenaventura is 95% Black and basically when people mention the Pacific region it's a euphanism for Black people.

Francia Marqez is from Buenaventura and hasn't really made a video about the region.

That being said there's murals all over the hoods in Cali (the Atlanta of Colombia) bigging her up.

That's the ironic downside of no one drop rule. Guaranteed the white Latinos view themselves as Spanish/Italian/German/white but the Black Latinos don't always see themselves as "Black." The see themselves as their nationality first and then color.

That makes sense if you're in Jamaica but not Brazil