Does anyone wonder how our life would have been if instead of our ancestors coming to America they ended up in South America?

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That's the ironic downside of no one drop rule. Guaranteed the white Latinos view themselves as Spanish/Italian/German/white but the Black Latinos don't always see themselves as "Black." The see themselves as their nationality first and then color.

That makes sense if you're in Jamaica but not Brazil
Yes generally the term for a "pure blood"or white Latin is criollo aka creole. In the DR it literally means someone of Spanish decent born in the Dr and not Spain.

That being said they know that they're "Black"as in Afro Colombian but they don't know what that means. School isn't free here and there's plenty of Afro Colombians who beleive that they are indigenous to Colombia or don't know how they got there.

No where outside of America is the Atlantic slave trade discussed.
 

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Please,please my black brehs....travel the world,meet and talk to other black people and learn something besides what white people tell you about yourself and others that look like you. I've said before that AA' s had it exceptionally bad regarding white supremacy, living in the cave of the demon but the amount of disconnect in how black people around the globe have suffered and came through that suffering is lost on most of you. By travelling you'll get an understanding of how completely and nefariously white supremacy has fukked us all across this planet. I've visited many countries where we were brought to but I've never got into a debate on who had it worse like it's a competition of evil visited upon us,that's really incomprehensible to me as a black man. We all have the horror stories passed down to us and in my case I actually was fortunate to meet elders that were the children of slaves and they grew up when the wounds where still bleeding,that will change your perspective on what you deem to be culture and what was nothing but survival and coping mechanisms. We are not defined by our suffering, something to remember when we fail to find ways to relate to each other.
 

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I genuinely wonder if our lives would be any better or worse than now. Although black people still face police brutality in Latin America , there wasn’t segregation or Jim Crow laws, there isn’t mass shootings targeting black people, no lynchings, no medical experiments, interracial marriages weren’t illegal…..

If you compare the history we have in America to our Latin brehs, we certainly have faced more challenges and issues. This isn’t to say their isn’t racism in Latin America( because there definitely is) but it seems to be way less than what we face here

This is what the Brazilian police are doing to black men.
Brazilian man allegedly gassed to death in police car boot

A lot of you need to travel the world or learn another language. I'm very serious. It's strange having OP's opinions when we live in an era full of readily accessible information. Just even Google Afro-Brazilian racism or Afro-Colombian racism and you'll see...
 

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This is what the Brazilian police are doing to black men.
Brazilian man allegedly gassed to death in police car boot

A lot of you need to travel the world or learn another language. I'm very serious. It's strange having OP's opinions when we live in an era full of readily accessible information. Just even Google Afro-Brazilian racism or Afro-Colombian racism and you'll see...


These are the people in the "diaspora" that deserve our support.

Why don't African countries offering these folks free citizenship?
 

Nkrumah Was Right

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Correct.

Really ADOS are the only people who think of themselves and BLACK. and that includes Africans (I kind of give Africans a pass because they are the vast majority in their countries)

Literally They're having an election in Colombia Tommorow and a Black Woman is the Vice President and although every Black person seems to dig her no one said they were voting for her because she is Black. They are voting for her because she's a leftist.

That being said the "republican" candidate did plaster this video all over social media:



To put this in context. Buenaventura is 95% Black and basically when people mention the Pacific region it's a euphanism for Black people.

Francia Marqez is from Buenaventura and hasn't really made a video about the region.

That being said there's murals all over the hoods in Cali (the Atlanta of Colombia) bigging her up.


Unsure how Afro-consciousness is in Colombia, compared to say Brazil. But, interesting development. The Pacific Coast region is very poor. Hopefully she can bring in some development and alleviate poverty there.
 

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Unsure how Afro-consciousness is in Colombia, compared to say Brazil. But, interesting development. The Pacific Coast region is very poor. Hopefully she can bring in some development and alleviate poverty there.
It will be hard because the Pacific region is the wettest place in the western hemisphere. Technically Cali is in the Pacific region and it rains at least once every other day.

The Pacific is basically jungle and kind of like an Indian reservation for each house. Basically the Slaves ran away to that region from the north coast and set up shop. They wanted to widen the road from the coast and everyone planted houses along the route claiming the Land and demanding big money for the land.

technically they can't really sell the land per se. They don't öwn"it since they didn't buy it but they can't sell it either the people who live there have rights to the land that they can't transfer to other people.

Then there's the drugs and guerillas out there too.
 

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It will be hard because the Pacific region is the wettest place in the western hemisphere. Technically Cali is in the Pacific region and it rains at least once every other day.

The Pacific is basically jungle and kind of like an Indian reservation for each house. Basically the Slaves ran away to that region from the north coast and set up shop. They wanted to widen the road from the coast and everyone planted houses along the route claiming the Land and demanding big money for the land.

technically they can't really sell the land per se. They don't öwn"it since they didn't buy it but they can't sell it either the people who live there have rights to the land that they can't transfer to other people.

Then there's the drugs and guerillas out there too.

Lots of collective land title out there. There is a way to maximize economic growth from lands under collective land title. They need to alter the law to allow there to be third party use/leases. Ultimately, it's up to Afro-Colombians to decide...
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Lots of collective land title out there. There is a way to maximize economic growth from lands under collective land title. They need to alter the law to allow there to be third party use/leases. Ultimately, it's up to Afro-Colombians to decide...
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That's the issue. At the end of the day Afro Colombians and Black people the world over including ADOS seems good with the situation as it stands.
 

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No disrespect OP but you wouldn't survive a week in the slums in Latin America if you think you got it bad right now. A lot of cats don't realize how comfortable their life is in America until they sleep on a cot in a favela, swatting at bugs, taking cold showers every day.
 

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I genuinely wonder if our lives would be any better or worse than now. Although black people still face police brutality in Latin America , there wasn’t segregation or Jim Crow laws, there isn’t mass shootings targeting black people, no lynchings, no medical experiments, interracial marriages weren’t illegal…..

If you compare the history we have in America to our Latin brehs, we certainly have faced more challenges and issues. This isn’t to say their isn’t racism in Latin America( because there definitely is) but it seems to be way less than what we face here
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i mean depends on the country some would still have you segregated today, some would have bred out your women, others would have committed total genocide to erase the fact that you were even there. others would have ranked your humanity using the paper bag test etc etc.

what research did you even attempt to do for this? :francis:
 

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Swear to god some of y'all are just ignorant as fukk, South and Central America has hella Black folk, look at how they living now
this forum is incredibly ignorant. never stop being amazed.

The OP's ignorance is stunning.
same website where nikkaz think they exotic unicorns traveling to Brazil... the country that saw the most stolen Black people touch down...
 

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Unsure how Afro-consciousness is in Colombia, compared to say Brazil. But, interesting development. The Pacific Coast region is very poor. Hopefully she can bring in some development and alleviate poverty there.
From what some people have told me that have traveled to Colombia, they are proud of their African heritage.
 
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