Filthy McNasty
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How can you mf'ers argue about the same things day in and day out for YEARS?
Just wait until you're married.
Does Bean have the most complete offensive arsenal ever?
- Thread starter Swagnificent
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Just wait until you're married.
THE MACHINE
night owl
prime jordan shot over 40% from 3 point range and damn near 50% overall
kobe ever did that?
kevin durant shot better than kobe from every where this season, lebron did too, outside of 10ft-16ft
same results last season too
WHAT ARE U TRYNA ARGUE. THAT JORDAN HAD A THREEBALL ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS KOBE'S? LMFAO...WHAT AM I DEALIN WITH HERE??
THOSE YEARS WHERE MJ WAS GOOD FROM THREE WAS WHEN THEY SHORTENED THE DISTANCE OF THE THREE POINT LINE. PRIME KOBE WITH A SHORTENED THREE POINT LINE WOULDA SCORED 100 IN A GAME, CUD
But you could also say that Jordan faced double teams his first 8 years in the league while Kobe had Shaq. I'll give Kobe the advantage on the three but you shouldnt get credit for jacking up low percentage shots if you have the capability of getting a better look everytime you touch the ball.
I CAN FLIP THAT AND SAY KOBE AVERAGED 30 PPG AS A 2ND OPTION ON OFFENSE...WITHOUT SHAQ THERE, COULDA VERY WELL BEEN 40 PPG.
JORDAN ALSO PLAYED WHEN PERIMETER ATHLETES WERE WAY LESS ATHLETIC/DOMINANT...HE WAS GOIN UP AGAINST THE LIKES OF HERSEY HAWKINS, CRAIG EHLO, AND JEFF HORNACEK....THE LEAGUE WASNT PERIMETER DOMINANT LIKE IT IS NOWADAYS.....AND ANOTHER THING, THE NO ZONE DEFENSE RULES...KOBE FACED SOME OF THE MOST GRUELING TRIPLE TEAMS DURING HIS PRIME, WHICH WASNT ALLOWED BACK IN JORDAN'S DAY DUE TO NO ZONE+ILLEGAL DEFENSE RULES...KOBE HAS SEEN WAY MORE TYPES OF DEFENSES THAN JORDAN EVER HAS.
YALL JEEP FORGETTING JORDAN'S 3PT STATS ARE INFLATED DUE TO THE YEARS WHERE THE LINE WAS SHORTENED.
IN REALITY, HE'S NOWHERE NEAR AS PURE A SHOOTER AS KOBE.
Actually, Phil said the opposite of what you're saying.
http://nba.si.com/2013/05/17/phil-j...leader-shooter-and-defender-than-kobe-bryant/
And your opinion on MJ not seeing Kobe skill wise is laughable, especially when Phil is saying all of this & he coached both players.
You didn't say scoring only. So I take it you mean all facets of offense.
Kobe Stan's?...where does he rank in these catogories?
Offensive rebounding?
Passing?
Setting screens?
Pick and roll?
Moving without the ball?
Leadership?
Feed the bigman?
HE GETS AN A+ ON EVERY ONE
your moving goal post, quote me again when you can stay on topic
PHIL FLIP FLOPPED ON THE TOPIC, I ALREADY POSTED THE AUDIO WHERE HE SAID KOBE WAS MORE TALENTED.
this isn't a gymnastics competition, IDGAF about "shot difficulty" this is something you coined to try and favor the argument for Kobe. You don't get extra credit because your shot is "more difficult" or not.
I deal in real world analysis not BS you spew to favor a point.
And let's have a look at more FACTS.
The years where Jordan attempted more than 200 3's he shot;
37.6% 1989
35.2% 1993
42.7% 1996
37.4% 1997
These numbers are all comparable and exceed the numbers Kobe has done.
Hell i won't even bring up the year he shot 50% from 3
AGAIN, THE YEAR THE LINE WAS SHORTENED...JORDAN SHEEP STAY LOSIN
True, he did flip flop....but I still don't think Kobe's game was better than Jordan's. After all, he did basically take every move of Jordan but he guns sometimes and has gunned his team out of games, whereas Jordan hasn't. So I think "skills" & "arsenal" aren't just physical aspects, but mental as well.
Your points have nothing to do with the argument, your going off tangent.
I pointed out that jordan had his highest scoring season without pippen, then you bring up W/L records. Seriously WTF. are you Ill?
IN HIS HIGHEST SCORING SEASON THE STATS IN THE NBA WERE INFLATED...EVERY PLAYER+TEAM WAS SCORING AT A MUCH GREATER RATE THAN NOWADAYS, AND THIS IS FACT. THE JORDAN OF THOSE DAYS DIDNT EVEN HAVE A COMPLETE OFFENSIVE ARSENAL. HE SHOT 18% FROM THREE THAT YEAR...COME ON, NOW