Does Cam have the potential to be great?

[954UAlreadyknow]

His footwork/fundamentals after all this time are still shaky....


4 years in the league that should've been cleaned up by now...

He's still has the same flaws. He'll never be an elite qb

 

[Danie84]

As a Killa fan, I think he should calm down before he Air's It Out
...so, his deep ball doesn't end up going HAM

But, he's a couple receivers always for proving all his naysayer's wrong

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

No bridgewater?

Bridgewater is interesting as well.

He's not as physically gifted like Cam. But he has better footwork, better intermediate accuracy and processes information quicker.

The question for Bridgewater is if he can physically hold up in the league and if he can improve his deep ball accuracy. He's got the intangibles.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

As a Killa fan, I think he should calm down before he Air's It Out
...so, his deep ball doesn't end up going HAM

But, he's a couple receivers always for proving all his naysayer's wrong

I wish they would have got Martavis Bryant in the draft last year as well.

Him and KB

 

[Big Boss]

He has two 1000 yard receivers but he needs more receiver help
He has the #2 defense in the league but he needs more help from his team
He throws a pick six and it's the receivers fault

at the excuse making for this clown

when you think about it, cam has more weapons than baby hair

 

[Stone]

Our defense has been ranked in the lower 20s like all year breh. Andy sucks tho so I'm not tryna argue

Cincy 's D has been injured a lot this year . They're a top unit when healthy

 

[mastermind]

Bridgewater is interesting as well.

He's not as physically gifted like Cam. But he has better footwork, better intermediate accuracy and processes information quicker.

The question for Bridgewater is if he can physically hold up in the league and if he can improve his deep ball accuracy. He's got the intangibles.

Teddy got deep ball accuracy

He gonna be good imo

 

[Originalman]

Bridgewater is interesting as well.

He's not as physically gifted like Cam. But he has better footwork, better intermediate accuracy and processes information quicker.

The question for Bridgewater is if he can physically hold up in the league and if he can improve his deep ball accuracy. He's got the intangibles.

Also Teddy is in a unique position. Normally if you look at recent history. Whenever an NFL team moves or gets a new stadium they usually become good or make long playoff runs. Now my conspiracy theory is that this is needed to ensue that the fans support the team and fill the new stadium (PSL and tickets have to be sold) the city (and sometimes owner) makes an investment and the owner and city has to get that money back.

So in saying that I expect the Vikings to no get rid of weapons and make sure they either retain or get more weapons for Teddy. They must consistently make the playoffs for the next few years. That new stadium is a billion dollar stadium and let's not forget zigi was threatening to move the team if not for the new stadium.

Another thing the weapons that were originally added to this team were for ponder and or Cassel. So Teddy is not walking into a situation where there is no talent and the Vikings are coming off a 1 win season. It can almost be like the situation Kap walked into with harbaugh. Harbaugh drafted him the team was already loaded with weapons that were gotten for Alex Smith over the years.

Oh and Teddy has one of the greatest OCs in the last 20 years of football.....that is also a hell of a start.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

when you think about it, cam has more weapons than baby hair

He does.

Probably ain't gonna happen. This the league where McNabb had to go to 3 straight NFC Championship games and beg management just to get a great WR.

This a league where Russ statistically has more TDs and wins than any QB in his first 3 years yet his team and management takes weapons from him after winning the Super Bowl.

Dude you can't make this type of shyt up if you tried.

I still think from the eye test...

McNabb was better than Cam at this stage. You could see it was the shyt around McNabb hurting his game. With Cam its either he's not progressing or the coaches are not getting the most out of him.

Put 25 year old McNabb on this Panthers team with KB and Olson (who are better than any of McNabb's targets outside the TO year and later in his career with Jackson) I think he plays better.

However, McNabb did have Andy Reid with him in Philly. So maybe it is the coaching thats holding Cam back.

 

[Blessings]

....I guess we're going to ignore the fact that his best option in a key 3rd down (which changed the game) is Mike Tolbert

 

[Originalman]

when you think about it, cam has more weapons than baby hair

Big man Russ has a better OC and OL, better run game. Also I think both WR cores are trash but the OC is better in Seattle. He knows how to use the WRs. They are faster and more elusive. They are able to run after the catch as well.

Last Russ is not the goal line and power back for Seattle. He gives that shyt to lynch who is one of the best backs in the league the last 10 years. Carolina can't even get short yardage if Cam doesn't line up in shot gun and dive over the OL for a first down. Only one year Cam hasn't been the leading rusher on the team. Russell has never had to be the leading rusher or TD maker on the team rushing.

It is still a shame with all of this. These two dudes have had more success than many QBs in this league. But a bum like Dalton got more weapons then both these brothas combined. Now that is the real tragedy. Cutler one play off game winning ass got more weapons than both these Kats......I can go on and on man.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Also Teddy is in a unique position. Normally if you look at recent history. Whenever an NFL team moves or gets a new stadium they usually become good or make long playoff runs. Now my conspiracy theory is that this is needed to ensue that the fans support the team and fill the new stadium (PSL and tickets have to be sold) the city (and sometimes owner) makes an investment and the owner and city has to get that money back.

So in saying that I expect the Vikings to no get rid of weapons and make sure they either retain or get more weapons for Teddy. They must consistently make the playoffs for the next few years. That new stadium is a billion dollar stadium and let's not forget zigi was threatening to move the team if not for the new stadium.

Another thing the weapons that were originally added to this team were for ponder and or Cassel. So Teddy is not walking into a situation where there is no talent and the Vikings are coming off a 1 win season. It can almost be like the situation Kap walked into with harbaugh. Harbaugh drafted him the team was already loaded with weapons that were gotten for Alex Smith over the years.

Oh and Teddy has one of the greatest OCs in the last 20 years of football.....that is also a hell of a start.

Just having Norv makes it possible for Teddy to be very good. They get another wr they are a team to look out for in the NFC.

Kaep is in an interesting position. If they dont find an offensive minded coach he may get thrown to the bushes if he doesnt improve.

You know how it goes. "He wasnt the guy I drafted"

 

[Blessings]

Big man Russ has a better OC and OL, better run game. Also I think both WR cores are trash but the OC is better in Seattle. He knows how to use the WRs. They are faster and more elusive. They are able to run after the catch as well.

Last Russ is not the goal line and power back for Seattle. He gives that shyt to lynch who is one of the best backs in the league the last 10 years. Carolina can't even get short yardage if Cam doesn't line up in shot gun and dive over the OL for a first down. Only one year Cam hasn't been the leading rusher on the team. Russell has never had to be the leading rusher or TD maker on the team rushing.

It is still a shame with all of this. These two dudes have had more success than many QBs in this league. But a bum like Dalton got more weapons then both these brothas combined. Now that is the real tragedy. Cutler one play off game winning ass got more weapons than both these Kats......I can go on and on man.

+Stafford
+Matt Ryan highest paid player in the league
+game manager Alex Smith w/ the best RB tandem + TE tandem in the league

 

[IGSaint12]

when you think about it, cam has more weapons than baby hair

Cam does have better weapons than Wilson there is no denying that but Seattle's OC knows how to use their weapons effectively while Carolina's OC does not. You can have the best weapons in the NFL but if your OC does not know how to utilize them effectively then a lot of the advantages are nullified. And with that said Wilson has the best defense in the league. He really never has to know that his defense will keep him out of games.

 

[Originalman]

He does.


I still think from the eye test...

McNabb was better than Cam at this stage. You could see it was the shyt around McNabb hurting his game. With Cam its either he's not progressing or the coaches are not getting the most out of him.

Put 25 year old McNabb on this Panthers team with KB and Olson (who are better than any of McNabb's targets outside the TO year and later in his career with Jackson) I think he plays better.

However, McNabb did have Andy Reid with him in Philly. So maybe it is the coaching thats holding Cam back.

I have to think about who was the better QB at that age. Still it does not change McNabb had a better OC who called screens and roll outs and slants. It does not change that Mcnabb played behind two great OL tackles and a good OL.

In saying all of that it still doesn't change the fact that these black QBs get fukked over and over. McNabb had to go to management and beg for a WR. Then go to the media and beg for a WR after going to three straight NFC championship games and 4 years of playoff runs.

Now ask youself this would any white QB have to go to management and the media to beg for help?

In the end McNabb would have been in the same situation as Cam with that OL, that garbage running game and that horrible play calling. Now if McNabb could have had KB (Olson a wash because he can't run block....the Eagles tight end was better in my oppionion because he could block and catch), Andy Reid as OC and that Eagles OL it would have helpd but I am not sure he still would have beaten the Rams, TB or Carolina in those NFC championship games.

I have always argued the only reason McNabb went to the Super Bowl was because he faced a QB that finally had less weapons than him (and what do you know another black QB in Vick) in the championship game and Westbrook was healthy for the first time and the last time in an NFC championship game.