Does Lil Wayne Use Ghostwriters? If So... How Can That Be Possible?

[Cladyclad]

Those aren't even in his prime, like really?nikka has 100's of songs and those 2 only standout?

Ain't judging just saying damn, doesn't seem you like him at all.

Those songs felt honest & refreshing
That's why they stand out to me

 

[wingstop]

If you really know your Wayne history he became a punchline rapper from C1, not around the C3. And his real decline began around D4 mixtape, not the C3 (yeah he has a couple bad songs on it.).

There was a time where he had great stories, interesting concepts, real themes in bars and not endless non-seqitur bullshyt. Wayne has to be the least creative in tropes however, every rapper has them but god damn, they're incantations at his point.

Maybe that's his way of practiting that New Orleans voodoo?

hell nah, the real decline definitely started on the carter 3 and thats when he started to overdo those punchlines and his rapping declined.

wayne was already trash by the time D4 came out

 

[Chip Skylark]

hell nah, the real decline definitely started on the carter 3 and thats when he started to overdo those punchlines and his rapping declined.

wayne was already trash by the time D4 came out

Exactly half of these dudes become wayne fans when lollipop came out

 

[Saint Denson]

Man "Fly In" is so epic..... Didn't occur to me how part of his style was NY-influenced until I began analyzing Rap styles as a fan and music theorist.

I specifically hear Cam (Crass and slapstick humor), Jay (Never ending flow changes) and some Ghostface (Wayne constantly using that stream-of-consciousness style of lyrical expression, mostly for bars.)

Yeah you can tell he had a heavy Dipset and Jay Z on that album especially on songs like Tha Mobb and Receipt. And considering the fact he was working with Juelz heavy around that time it's safe to say NY had a huge impact on that album.

And the sonics on the album had an eastcoast vibe and was dope as f*ck. Producers don't make beats like that no more. Back then production actually felt like it was worth something rather than just some cat triggering sounds on a laptop. Personally i blame the easy access to production software for the decline in production quality. Cats need to go back to MPCs, turntables and hardware keyboards because we need that feeling again. Hell even Drake's producer is taking it back.

 

[Murkman]

C1 didn't have bars?! Memorable concepts. Go back and listen to Birdman Jr, This the Carter, and I miss my dawgs. The entire cd was a concept. Wayne was SPITTING from beginning to end on C1. Even the singles was fire.

"Got a bytch in the back got a hoe in the front/One cooking the crack one rolling the blunt" "I'm a motherfukkin cash money millionaire" and he was styling and swagging the entire song. Killing it.

Wayne was on 1 on that album.

Yeah it was mostly plain spoken aside from a few songs bro you mentioned like "BR Jr.", he got more lyrical later on, you acting like he didn't progress in anyway from the C1. Wayne also expands his subject matter on later projects, would actually organize out concepts, etc.

There was a lot of unreleased poetic, spiritual and romantic shyt he did too before he fell off, and that damn sure wasn't C1 era either.

 

[Bathing Ape]

Not true at all that's a myth. You have to contribute to the song to get credit or at least be able to leverage your fame & finances in order to get credit for something you didn't do

Thats simply not true. Artist do this all the time breh. A person literally in the same room as wayne can be credited on a album as giving them "inspiration"

 

[Murkman]

hell nah, the real decline definitely started on the carter 3 and thats when he started to overdo those punchlines and his rapping declined.

wayne was already trash by the time D4 came out

Sorry my memory is fukked up from too much Auto-Tune, was that album where the "808's Kanye influence" began?

If so, then I take back my previous points, I always forget he dropped so much material in each of those years....

 

[Saint Denson]

Thats simply not true. Artist do this all the time breh. A person literally in the same room as wayne can be credited on a album as giving them "inspiration"

That doesn't happen very often. Usually if someone is credited on the song they either contributed to the Top Line (Lyrics and Melody) or the music composition (Producer, Instrumentalist, Engineer or Sample Source)

 

[Chip Skylark]

Yeah it was mostly plain spoken aside from a few songs bro you mentioned like "BR Jr.", he got more lyrical later on, you acting like he didn't progress in anyway from the C1. Wayne also expands his subject matter on later projects, would actually organize out concepts, etc.

There was a lot of unreleased poetic, spiritual and romantic shyt he did too before he fell off, and that damn sure wasn't C1 era either.

Just because he got more lyrical and drawn out better concepts doesn't mean that c1 isn't his most complete project. He had Hella great songs that were thrown together on mixtapes.

But that doesn't mean they're better or complete projects than c1 or c2. Wayne peaked around drought 3 as far as making solid projects without all the wack ass punchlines.

C1 imo is his best cd but he has nothing better than c1 or c2

 

[Murkman]

Just because he got more lyrical and drawn out better concepts doesn't mean that c1 isn't his most complete project. He had Hella great songs that were thrown together on mixtapes.

But that doesn't mean they're better or complete projects than c1 or c2. Wayne peaked around drought 3 as far as making solid projects without all the wack ass punchlines.

C1 imo is his best cd but he has nothing better than c1 or c2

How can your an album like that be his most complete, when his growth and prime was afterwards?

C2 was way more cohesive, C3 he tried other ideas lyrically, C4 was just.........

A complete project is more than the music, but an expansion of your artistic vision and songwriting. You pretend like he was really aiming for the stars on the C1, Wayne was barely getting started.
But, I understand why it's considered a cult classic by his fans.

 

[wingstop]

Sorry my memory is fukked up from too much Auto-Tune, was that album where the "808's Kanye influence" began?

If so, then I take back my previous points, I always forget he dropped so much material in each of those years....

He had like 2 or 3 tracks with autotune i think but the majority wasnt like that.

I actually think the carter 3 is decent but I look at it as a decline from his previous work and a disappointing album

 

[4-Rin]

I thought Gillie wrote fireman. The flow is just like Gillie's
I also thought Drake wrote for Wayne a bit when he first started hanging around Wayne...which is funny now since Drake has writers too.

 

[Murkman]

He had like 2 or 3 tracks with autotune i think but the majority wasnt like that.

I actually think the carter 3 is decent but I look at it as a decline from his previous work and a disappointing album

I see what you mean, then the C4 was a bad Margi Gras hangover. I was excited when I listened to 3 of the 5 C5 singles when he brought that C2 style.

You think he ever gonna have enough focus and passion to drop another classic album, or he is just out of it dealing with Birdman?
I'm currently 50/50 on the outlook.

 

[Saint Denson]

How can your an album like that be his most complete, when his growth and prime was afterwards?

C2 was way more cohesive, C3 he tried other ideas lyrically, C4 was just.........

A complete project is more than the music, but an expansion of your artistic vision and songwriting. You pretend like he was really aiming for the stars on the C1, Wayne was barely getting started. But, I understand why it's considered a cult classic by his fans.

Just because he got more lyrical and drawn out better concepts doesn't mean that c1 isn't his most complete project. He had Hella great songs that were thrown together on mixtapes.

But that doesn't mean they're better or complete projects than c1 or c2. Wayne peaked around drought 3 as far as making solid projects without all the wack ass punchlines.

C1 imo is his best cd but he has nothing better than c1 or c2

Wayne is like Fabolous, Jadakiss and many other dope ass lyricist in the since that many consider his mixtapes to be his best work. The Prefix/Suffix, Dedication 1 & 2 and Da Drought 3 are the projects that come to peoples mind when they think of dope Lil Wayne shyt.

But when it comes to retail albums Tha Carter I & II are the ones people commonly cite as being major influences on them.

 

[Murkman]

I thought Gillie wrote fireman. The flow is just like Gillie's
I also thought Drake wrote for Wayne a bit when he first started hanging around Wayne...which is funny now since Drake has writers too.

If he did, then it was that wack ass Simp closet anthem "She Will". I can't imagine Drake penning actual Rap songs to Wayne though, that would defy opposite day times infinity.

Gillie for the last time didn't write for that nikka, lmao he said it himself multiple times that he was a "coach" while ghostwriting for Birdman. He can't write for someone who already was rapping on another level, compared to his basic shyt, otherwise Gillie be on Top/G.O.A.T. lists.


That and the last time Wayne reportedly wrote down actual bars was "10,000 Bars". He does that Hov method of coming up with Rap songs, without writing them down.

You also need proof like reference tracks for ghostwriting claims, they would have leaked a long ass time ago.