Does Riley Attempting To Make Miami The 1994 Bulls Make Sense?

[Art Barr]

Coming in a thread that's already 3 pages long only to quote me?

Seems like someone is still mad about the Michigan ether I gave him


You're too old to be acting like this breh.....man up and quit sulking. Makes you looks like a crybaby ass nikka who can talk shyt about everyone else's city but cant take it back


He didnt play only 1 season in Orlando fool.....he played 5 seasons


What happened in Orlando?

Shaq and Penny carried him to the NBA Finals in 1995

1996 Bulls SWEPT him out of the playoffs in 96

97 Shaq left and it was finally time for Grant to move UP to a 2nd option.....they lose in the 1st round and he averaged 13 pts & 9 rebs on the season

98 they come back and DONT make the playoffs.....he averages 12 pts and 8 rebounds on the season

99 his last season in Orlando, they once again lose in the 1st round of the playoffs....he averages 9 pts and 7 rebounds on the season and 7 pts and 7 rebs in the playoffs




AGAIN, only a FOOL would say Horace Grant was better than Chris Bosh. Grant has proven he wasnt shyt as a player you relied on and needed the likes of Jordan & Pippen or Shaq & Penny next to him for him in order to have any success.

bosh needed bron and wade.
plus, what happened versus dirk, and Duncan in the finals.
plus, bosh lost twice in the finals with bron and wade.
where, he was a bytch just weeks ago.
you have no empirical data, rings convo, or bullshyt to help you in this.
also, the nerve of you trying to make it like it is a personal issue when you got ethered on just sheer stats and history of the three peat years to Shaq and penny.
also, when was bosh ever as reliable as Horace, ever?
when, has bush overcame his bytchassness.
bytchassness, that Horace grant never had, EVER!!

Art Barr

 

[Long Live The Kane]

I never said he was a better player I said he fit the role of a 3rd option PF.

In a thread about next year's heat and the '94 bulls, where neither of them were/are going to be 3rd options

Miami signing Chris Bosh as part of the "big 3", only to minimize his greatest strengths and play him out of position and therefore maximize his biggest weaknesses like they somehow didn't know he wasn't a physical bang-bang-down low bruiser big is a topic for you cry about in another thread ...in this one, it just turns into a random tangent that really has nothing to do with anything...next year, who do the heat need more? Chris Bosh that was dropping 24 a game when MIA signed him...or Ho Grant to be a 3rd option behind Deng?

 

[FTBS]

that is a very specific scenario but i'll play with it
Horace Grant would have been a better fit as a 3rd option Rebound and Defend bigs player alongside wade and lebron
than bosh was.

Thats true.
But thats more about roles than about who is better than who.
Bosh>>>>

Thank you. That's all I am saying.

 

[Art Barr]

this nikka talking about Harvey Grant now?


nikka

deflect and make the Cosby face when you can't stand getting that ether.
so, you skim to hide the fact you can't even read the truth in your face.
i can't believe a nikka.
trying to slight Horace grant for bosh.

art barr

 

[Art Barr]

show you skim and take the words out of context, goofie.
you full of the same estrogen gyno condition bosh suffers from.
nikka, Chris bosh softer than pau gasol under duress.
yet, and still at least pau got over his fear of the undertaker /sheed/Garnett.
to actually team with artest in game seven to support an exposed Kobe.
this nikka bosh was scared of weak ho ass Duncan, dirk and Amish dressing Tyson chandler.
plus, never won like Horace, either

Art Barr

 

[Raw Lyrics]

Riley kept a competitive team while also making key efforts to clean out the books in 2 years. The East is weak as we all know. If this was the West, or if Bosh signed with the Rockets, he might be approaching this differently.

The thing is Riley has never been that build through the draft guy. 2003 was a blessing. They don't really develop players. So we have to understand that tanking for picks may not work here, especially considering future draft classes may be weak.

He did a great job considering he was essentially blindsided this offseason.

He isn't going down without swinging.

I agree with the entire post except the bolded....blindsided might be too strong of a term for a smart guy like Riley. According to multiple reports, the writing was on the wall as far back as last off-season.

 

[FTBS]

In a thread about next year's heat and the '94 bulls, where neither of them were/are going to be 3rd options

Miami signing Chris Bosh as part of the "big 3", only to minimize his greatest strengths and play him out of position and therefore maximize his biggest weaknesses like they somehow didn't know he wasn't a physical bang-bang-down low bruiser big is a topic for you cry about in another thread ...in this one, it just turns into random tangent that really has nothing to do with anything...next year, who do the heat need more? Chris Bosh that was dropping 24 a game when MIA signed him...or Ho Grant to be a 3rd option behind Deng?

It wasn't random and it's only a tangent because you are making it one. You don't want to talk about it yet you keep talking about it. Meanwhile you ing about him being asked to play out of position because he's not a bruiser while getting max money on team with limited flexibility in large part because he is getting that max money to be a 3rd option is somehow relevant.

The Heat with Ho Grant would likely have $12-$15 mil or so in cap space to sign another valuable FA or combo thereof.

Bosh is better but it's really up to him to prove how much so this year and throughout the life of this contract. In Toronto when he was putting up those 24 pts, his team was missing the playoffs. They missed the playoffs most of his time there and this was in the "leastern" conference. I can miss the playoffs with Ho Grant or any random player. I think I can figure out a way to sneak into the playoffs a couple times and go to the lottery the other 5 years with Grant and the cap space he would provide.

 

[Luke Cage]

deflect and make the Cosby face when you can't stand getting that ether.
so, you skim to hide the fact you can't even read the truth in your face.
i can't believe a nikka.
trying to slight Horace grant for bosh.

art barr

you ethered me with that Horace Grant > Bosh knowledge

art barr killin em again brehs

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[Art Barr]

he self admitted

just like you missed bosh is bytch-made and Horace grant's career.
you missed bosh, saying and admitting he was bytchmade.
plus, the thread on the quote on this forum, too.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

you ethered me with that Horace Grant > Bosh knowledge

art barr killin em again brehs

Spoiler

lol, at your horrific uses of smilies.
not, having any draw or effect on:


Art Barr

 

[Newzz]

bosh needed bron and wade.

Chris Bosh has led a team to the playoffs, as the #1 option, without Bron and Wade.

Horace Grant has NEVER led a team to the playoffs period.

plus, what happened versus dirk, and Duncan in the finals.

Against Dirk, Bosh averaged 19 pts and 7 rebounds.

Against Duncan in 2013, he averaged 12 pts and 9 rebounds

Against Duncan in 2014, he averaged 14 pts and 5 rebounds.

Against Ibaka In 2012, Bosh averaged 15 pts and 9 rebounds.

On the other hand, Horace Grant has averaged 15 pts and 8 rebs in the 91 Finals, 9 pts and 8 rebs in the 92 Finals, 11pts and 10 rebs in the 93 Finals, and 14 pts and 12 rebs in the 94 Finals.


Chris Bosh has a career 15 pts and 8 rebounds average in the NBA Finals while Horace Grant is at 12 pts and 10 rebounds

plus, bosh lost twice in the finals with bron and wade.

He made it to the NBA Finals all 4 years he played with LeBron and Wade though......that's a 100% success rate

Horace Grant played with Jordan & Pippen and Shaq and Penny for a total of 8 seasons and missed the Finals 4 times.....that's a 50% success rate

where, he was a bytch just weeks ago.

The whole team was on some bytch shyt

you have no empirical data, rings convo, or bullshyt to help you in this.

Chris Bosh's entire career shyts on Horace Grant's.

Do you wanna compare their resumes?

also, the nerve of you trying to make it like it is a personal issue when you got ethered on just sheer stats and history of the three peat years to Shaq and penny.

Do you REALLY wanna compare their resumes?

also, when was bosh ever as reliable as Horace, ever?

Grant has never led a team to the playoffs like Bosh has.

And standing next to 2 Superstars....Bosh went to 4 straight NBA Finals while Grant for 8 seasons missed the Finals as many times as he made it.

It seems that Bosh is more reliable to me

when, has bush overcame his bytchassness.
bytchassness, that Horace grant never had, EVER!!

Art Barr

 

[Luke Cage]

just like you missed bosh is bytch-made and Horace grant's career.
you missed bosh, saying and admitting he was bytchmade.
plus, the thread on the quote on this forum, too.


Art Barr

 

[Luke Cage]

lol, at your horrific uses of smilies.
not, having any draw or effect on:


Art Barr

ethered me again

art barr

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

lol, at your horrific uses of smilies.
not, having any draw or effect on:


Art Barr

theres is no greater evidence when they don't know what they're talking about when they gotta slap a smiley at the end of every sentance.

In that era you needed someone who could handle Oakley, Laimbeer, Mahorn, X-man, etc. No way bosh could've handled it. He would've ended up with the danny mannings of the league at the time who were just fodder to the rest.

EDIT: btw of the miami big 3, i feel like lebron would've bossed up and healthy wade's game translates across eras [the dive and flop is just a function of the refs letting him do it], but bosh would be fishfood. He is good for this era and players of his size shooting 3s being acceptable but he would've gotten destroyed by the rodmans of the time.

 

[Luke Cage]

theres is no greater evidence when they don't know what they're talking about when they gotta slap a smiley at the end of every sentance.

In that era you needed someone who could handle Oakley, Laimbeer, Mahorn, X-man, etc. No way bosh could've handled it. He would've ended up with the danny mannings of the league at the time who were just fodder to the rest.

Sometime the best response to trolling is no response. i could ignore or smiley. i chose smiley
and horace grant wasn't handling anybody tho

he was a role player. his job was to get rebounds and defend the paint.
this nikka is saying harvey grant would be an allstar level player in the current NBA
and you co-signing?