Does Riley Attempting To Make Miami The 1994 Bulls Make Sense?

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truthfully i think undonis haslem has a better 10 footer
both are the same type of player tho
Horace has a slight advantage over udonis because of size.
his size make a slightly better all around player than udonis.
both are rebound/defend players that get points off putbacks.


you must be smoking some of the huffest schwag reggie on earth.
if you think haslem had a jumper on par with horace fukk'n grant, fool.
bosh's jumper is not anywhere near horace's mid range jumper, nikka.
now, i know for a fact, you don't know what the fukk you talembout, nikka.

nikka stfu,..you never saw horace grant play one minute of hoops.
you even trying to deflect like you watched horace.
or bosh more than me, and i know this is a damn joke.


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Is that really a thing?

:patrice:

Why wouldn't you just take one dribble and shoot a floater or dunk it?


horace was scorch'n net jumper every attempt from fifteen to twenty.
i know this nikka, @Weedizmedicine, don't know what the fukk he talembout.

@Weedizmedicine, i hope you deflect, too.
so, i can get to table'n up some shyt, too.
you, weak ass nikka...


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nikka, you really think bosh is on horace grant's level.
first off, bosh loses that argument in any normal pool of sportswriters off of ring convo.
let alone, if we take into account, that horace was one another finals team as the third option and actually produced.

call me when bosh makes wins a three peat.
let alone makes it to the finals again, as a third option.

the problem with nikkaz in this gen, and especially you is.
you fail to forget this is the low iq basketball era, and these wack nikkaz can't even beat a zone D.
horace grant would have abused these nikkaz in this gen.
especially, if he had to play in a zone with no forearm shiver in his back.

every player we value in the low basketball iq era, except for players the likes of;

healthy kobe
duncan
bron
healthy wade

are all suspect as hell and look funny in the light face ass nikkaz..
if they went out the time machine into the high basketball iq era.

nikka, stop playing.....

just off shaq alone calling bosh a queen on tdot.
when, he was a number one option, let's you know bosh is not up to snuff.
when, the person who flanked shaq in the finals and the last piece to them making the finals was;

horace grant.

again, you keep running your mouth, but i noticed you never quoted or rebuffed.
when, i listed whom and what type of comp down low horace played against, fool.

you won't cause you have no facts, and no one in this ball iq era down low.
is of comparable comparison to whom, horace grant played against down low.

just stop playing with your bullshyt, cause i know how to bullshyt too.
yet, my brand of bullshyt is a much higher draw than your's and you don't wanna play those games at all with:


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nikka shut up:heh:


Only a fool would argue that Horace Grant is a better player than Chris Bosh:mjlol:


You bring up the 3peat like Horace Grant was responsible for the Bulls 3 peating:deadmanny:


What happened in Orlando?:mjpls:


I should put YOUR ass though a table for this ruckus you're causing:russ:
 

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What happened in Orlando?:mjpls:
LOL they went to the finals stupid...and against the 95 bulls horace grant averaged 18-11 on 64% shooting on some revenge shyt, he blacked out.


btw

using prolific numbers of smilies after every sentance makes you look like a CHILD.
 

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The thread seemed to have gone on just fine with me "ruining" it. :yeshrug:

The only caping is the suggestion that Bron's presence made Bosh grab fewer rebounds than him and provide 0 resistance against physical bigs and at the rim.

:why:

Bosh not being the perfect player...not a 24ppg caliber scorer willing to supplant his own offensive game, be one of the best team defenders in the league,play out of position and somehow magically transform himself at age 28 to become a combination center/pf hybrid akin to prime dennis rodman, kg, anthony davis and marc gasol rolled into one that would allow miami to have every advantage of playing small ball (that swarming switch everything defense and the wide open offense that was key to their success ) and playing big simultaneously and roll off 7 rings in a row....doesn't mean he wasn't better than Ho Grant though...you don't see how asinine this line of conversation is? How do you even arrive at a point where you're arguing Grant is a better player than bosh based on him being a more natural fit to play a reduced role on a team that doesn't even exist anymore, in a thread about miami's prospect next with Bosh returning to a featured offensive role :dwillhuh: ?
 

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horace was scorch'n net jumper every attempt from fifteen to twenty.
i know this nikka, @Weedizmedicine, don't know what the fukk he talembout.

@Weedizmedicine, i hope you deflect, too.
so, i can get to table'n up some shyt, too.
you, weak ass nikka...


art barr

:mjlol:
i don't know what you just said. but it still doesn't prove horace grant is better than chris bosh
 

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lol at playing Bosh @ the 3.

only my nikka @Art Barr


so, you would have made buck Williams sit, and play Robinson at the four alongside duck on the blazers?
while buck wasted away in the bench and you could have had a frontcourt of:

robinson
buck
duck

yeah, okay nikka.....
bosh is a self admitted three.
he wants to be on the wing and play ISO.
he self admitted he does not want any parts of being downlow and his skillset is not made for being down low.

I can tell none of you nikkaz realm saw great basketball for real.
y'all to young and noob watchers of this shyt.





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so, you would have made buck Williams sit, and play Robinson at the four alongside duck on the blazers?
while buck wasted away in the bench and you could have had a frontcourt of:

robinson
buck
duck

yeah, okay nikka.....
bosh is a self admitted three.
he wants to be on the wing and play ISO.
he self admitted he does not want any parts of being downlow and his skillset is not made for being down low.

I can tell none of you nikkaz realm saw great basketball for real.
y'all to young and noob watchers of this shyt.





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he self admitted :mjlol:
 

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LOL they went to the finals stupid...and against the 95 bulls horace grant averaged 18-11 on 64% shooting on some revenge shyt, he blacked out.


btw

using prolific numbers of smilies after every sentance makes you look like a CHILD.


Coming in a thread that's already 3 pages long only to quote me?:dwillhuh:

Seems like someone is still mad about the Michigan ether I gave him:sas1:


You're too old to be acting like this breh.....man up and quit sulking. Makes you looks like a crybaby ass nikka who can talk shyt about everyone else's city but cant take it back:sas2:


He didnt play only 1 season in Orlando fool.....he played 5 seasons:ufdup:


What happened in Orlando?:mjpls:

Shaq and Penny carried him to the NBA Finals in 1995

1996 Bulls SWEPT him out of the playoffs in 96

97 Shaq left and it was finally time for Grant to move UP to a 2nd option.....they lose in the 1st round and he averaged 13 pts & 9 rebs on the season

98 they come back and DONT make the playoffs.....he averages 12 pts and 8 rebounds on the season

99 his last season in Orlando, they once again lose in the 1st round of the playoffs....he averages 9 pts and 7 rebounds on the season and 7 pts and 7 rebs in the playoffs

:pacspit:


AGAIN, only a FOOL would say Horace Grant was better than Chris Bosh. Grant has proven he wasnt shyt as a player you relied on and needed the likes of Jordan & Pippen or Shaq & Penny next to him for him in order to have any success.
 

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Bosh not being the perfect player...a 24ppg caliber scorer willing to supplant his own offensive game, be one of the best team defenders in the league,play out of position and somehow magically transform himself at age 28 to become a combination center/pf hybrid akin to prime dennis rodman, kg, anthony davis and marc gasol rolled into one that would allow miami to have every advantage of playing small ball (that swarming switch everything defense and the wide open offense that was key to their success ) and playing big simultaneously and roll off 7 rings in a row....doesn't mean he wasn't better than Ho Grant though...you don't see how asinine this line of conversation is? How do you even arrive at a point where you're arguing Grant is a better player than bosh based on him being a more natural fit to play a reduced role on a team that doesn't even exist anymore, in a thread about miami's prospect next with Bosh returning to a featured offensive role :dwillhuh: ?

I never said he was a better player I said he fit the role of a 3rd option PF (aka the only role they have had in common) better. Feel free to keep ignoring this fact though. People keep saying he sacrificed his offensive game...well the last time I check that is the only thing he's got on Grant therefore when comparing them in similar roles it's really immaterial.

Actually the Heat would been good with him being any one of those guys...all they needed from him was to play big. You do realize that his inability/unwillingness to guard the rim and guard physical bigs actually created the need for the swarming defense right? He was the only one playing out of position and being asked to do a lot right? :comeon: I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no excuse for a team with max, superstar, whatever superlative you wanna throw out there PF having the issues MIA had on the interior, period. There is no way around that.
 

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Bosh not being the perfect player...not a 24ppg caliber scorer willing to supplant his own offensive game, be one of the best team defenders in the league,play out of position and somehow magically transform himself at age 28 to become a combination center/pf hybrid akin to prime dennis rodman, kg, anthony davis and marc gasol rolled into one that would allow miami to have every advantage of playing small ball (that swarming switch everything defense and the wide open offense that was key to their success ) and playing big simultaneously and roll off 7 rings in a row....doesn't mean he wasn't better than Ho Grant though...you don't see how asinine this line of conversation is? How do you even arrive at a point where you're arguing Grant is a better player than bosh based on him being a more natural fit to play a reduced role on a team that doesn't even exist anymore, in a thread about miami's prospect next with Bosh returning to a featured offensive role :dwillhuh: ?


bosh plays in a low ball IQ era, where he suffers no physical harm on par with the real bruisers that Horace battled.
the players back then were heartier mentally on super saiyan levels of competition with mind games of epic psychological proportions.
mind games Horace and even Harvey grant were never wavered by ever.
shyt, Horace grant was a better rebounder, shooter, and an unnerved consistent option offensively.
you never watched one bulls or magic game to say bosh is better than Horace grant.
as, a matter of fact Horace was more important than Scottie, too.
over the full course of the first three peat, too.
Horace never wavered and was the only original assest with air jordan.
from, his draft day till he left.
nikkaz, forget or just don't know.
when Scottie was a mental midget and brad sellers 2.o.
Horace, was the one still battling and scoring unwavered against the cavs and pistons.
you never saw any of that it and it is telling.
I watched bosh since he was in college cause I like oversized mismatches, on par guys.
my entire history posting illustrates that.
so, what makes you think I never sat and analyzed bosh's game.
like the Anthony randolph's, to John bender's, pj iii's, durant's and thon makers.
nikka, I know bosh's get the ball hesitant to make a sound IQ decision scary ass breh.
that nikka not water from the field and in an offensive set like Horace.
on no day defensively was he ever as good as Horace grant.
Horace, never missed j's or was a bytch like bosh.
bosh, not even as accomplished a team player like Horace.
let alone a contributor to the team mental complextion like no Horace fukk'n grant, nikka.

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I never said he was a better player I said he fit the role of a 3rd option PF (aka the only role they have had in common) better. Feel free to keep ignoring this fact though. People keep saying he sacrificed his offensive game...well the last time I check that is the only thing he's got on Grant therefore when comparing them in similar roles it's really immaterial.

Actually the Heat would been good with him being any one of those guys...all they needed from him was to play big. You do realize that his inability/unwillingness to guard the rim and guard physical bigs actually created the need for the swarming defense right? He was the only one playing out of position and being asked to do a lot right? :comeon: I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no excuse for a team with max, superstar, whatever superlative you wanna throw out there PF having the issues MIA had on the interior, period. There is no way around that.
that is a very specific scenario but i'll play with it
Horace Grant would have been a better fit as a 3rd option Rebound and Defend bigs player alongside wade and lebron
than bosh was.

Thats true.
But thats more about roles than about who is better than who.
Bosh>>>>
 

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bosh plays in a low ball IQ era, where he suffers no physical harm on par with the real bruisers that Horace battled.
the players back then were heartier mentally on super saiyan levels of competition with mind games of epic psychological proportions.
mind games Horace and even Harvey grant were never wavered by ever.
shyt, Horace grant was a better rebounder, shooter, and an unnerved consistent option offensively.
you never watched one bulls or magic game to say bosh is better than Horace grant.
as, a matter of fact Horace was more important than Scottie, too.
over the full course of the first three peat, too.
Horace never wavered and was the only original assest with air jordan.
from, his draft day till he left.
nikkaz, forget or just don't know.
when Scottie was a mental midget and brad sellers 2.o.
Horace, was the one still battling and scoring unwavered against the cavs and pistons.
you never saw any of that it and it is telling.
I watched bosh since he was in college cause I like oversized mismatches, on par guys.
my entire history posting illustrates that.
so, what makes you think I never sat and analyzed bosh's game.
like the Anthony randolph's, to John bender's, pj iii's, durant's and thon makers.
nikka, I know bosh's get the ball hesitant to make a sound IQ decision scary ass breh.
that nikka not water from the field and in an offensive set like Horace.
on no day defensively was he ever as good as Horace grant.
Horace, never missed j's or was a bytch like bosh.
bosh, not even as accomplished a team player like Horace.
let alone a contributor to the team mental complextion like no Horace fukk'n grant, nikka.

Art Barr
this nikka talking about Harvey Grant now?
:what:

nikka :aicmon:
 
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