Does the east stay weak because Lebron runs it?

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Rondo was not top 25 when Ray and KG got there :beli:

This is a bunch of B.S........from 08/09-2011/12(4 years) Rondo was the facilitator,a key playmaker,elite defender,and averaged 10.3 assist.How many pg's who average 10 assist and play elite defense aren't top 25 players ?....give me one.
 

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Well the 2011 heat took 3 of the top stars, including the top 2, of the east and put them all in one team so ya, he definitely helped make it weaker but not in the stupid way you're suggesting.

Shut yo hoe ass up hoe.
Better yet why aint no one from the west go out east and try to dethrone him :francis:

Exactly. Don't nobody want no parts of the East because they know that's Bron's territory. He run the East like Avon ran them towers. nikkas know. Even with Omar hitting the stash every now and then. A couple a nuggets ain't nothing to the grower.

nikkas come East and they instant Pat Ewing status.

Detroit was nice. Bron slayed em. Boston was nice. Bron slayed em. And that was that. Neither dynasty was heard from again. But only Mike gets props for beating the Pistons and Celtics (when them nikkas was old). :mjpls:

No

It stays weak because LeBron ̶r̶u̶n̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ creates superteam after superteam in the east merely by his presence...

Fixed that for ya, playa.
 

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:mindblown: i refuse to believe that some of you nikkas are that dumb.

Jesus Christ. And most of these dudes are kobe stans ? :damn:
You're the lone sounding stupid breh. You mean to tell me the majority of great players in the NBA don't play in the west? Please list out your top 10 players in the NBA :stopitslime:

You really think Lebron playing with Wade,Bosh and now Kyrie,Love has nothing to do with his "dominance" in the east?:mjlol:

And you got the unmitigated gall to say we are dumb:rudy::comeon:
 

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LeBron didn't run shyt in the East til he got his ass beat in 2010 and then ran to Miami to start this super team shyt we see today. His stans will have u believe that he defeated a prime Boston team in 2012 but in reality that team was old as dirt and 4 years removed from their only title run.

How the hell you claim Lebron "disrupted the balance of power" in 2011 by joining Wade/Bosh without noticing that Pierce/Kobe had only been running the previous three years by joining forces with the #1s from other teams (Garnett, Ray, Gasol). Hell, Artest was the #1 on the Rockets team that took LA to 7 in the WCSF the year before he joined them, and Rondo quickly became good enough to be a #1 too. So how was it Lebron disrupting the balance, and not LA/Boston?

And what you saying bout Boston is bullshyt because Lebron beat a 56-win Boston team in 2011 that wasn't even 11 months removed from being up 3-2 in the Finals until Perkins got hurt. Boston did decline, but Rondo's ascendancy partially offset it.

And you completely skipped over the Hamilton/Billups/Prince/Wallace and prime Kidd/Jefferson/Vince Carter teams that Lebron beat. Not to mention apparently forgetting that the 62-win Derrick Rose Bulls existed.
 
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LeBron didn't run shyt in the East til he got his ass beat in 2010 and then ran to Miami to start this super team shyt we see today. His stans will have u believe that he defeated a prime Boston team in 2012 but in reality that team was old as dirt and 4 years removed from their only title run.

Just as a hypothetical compare the 2 seed in the west to the Cavs this year. San Antonio had to play Memphis, Houston, and now Golden State.....not to mention eventually Cleveland in the finals if they somehow get past the warriors. Now compare that to the TRASH that LeBron hs been competing against in the playoffs so far:jbhmm:

The East is trash and LeBron has benefited from that ever since he disrupted the balance of power back in 2011.

i don't know why it's hard for them to accept reality, that the East teams are mediocre compare to West teams
 

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It's a combination of factors:

1. LeBron is obviously a major one. Hate all you want. Cop all the pleas for guys that can't make the playoffs without him all you want but the guy clearly has a substantial impact on whatever teams he is on.
2. Ping pong balls is another one. Seems like all the talent that came after him was drafted to the west. East does have some young studs on the come up.
3. shytty management. Most FOs are average to shytty. The couple that know what they are doing always tend to be out West.

All that said the East ain't as bad as people make it out to be and the gap between the East and the West ain't what people make it out to be.
2 and 3 are the biggest factor in the East being weak in my opinion. Most of the top players were drafted out West. The great players that ended up in the east were stuck with shytty GMs that had no clue how to build around them. So as a free agent unless you had a couple other free agents coming with you not many teams in the east were good enough for a top player from the west to come to in order to play in the weaker conference.

I do think that outside of maybe 1 or 2 years the West has been a lot stronger. I think if you take all outside of the worst 2-3 teams in the west if you drop any west team into the east and they'd be a playoff team. I also think most years the west has 4-5 championship contending teams while out east pretty much every year there's only been 1 or 2 teams that could be considered contenders. The West was usually a lot more top heavy.
 

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How the hell you claim Lebron "disrupted the balance of power" in 2011 by joining Wade/Bosh without noticing that Pierce/Kobe had only been running the previous three years by joining forces with the #1s from other teams (Garnett, Ray, Gasol). Hell, Artest was the #1 on the Rockets team that took LA to 7 in the WCSF the year before he joined them, and Rondo quickly became good enough to be a #1 too. So how was it Lebron disrupting the balance, and not LA/Boston?

And what you saying bout Boston is bullshyt because Lebron beat a 56-win Boston team in 2011 that wasn't even 11 months removed from being up 3-2 in the Finals until Perkins got hurt. Boston did decline, but Rondo's ascendancy partially offset it.

And you completely skipped over the Hamilton/Billups/Pierce/Wallace and prime Kidd/Jefferson/Vince Carter teams that Lebron beat. Not to mention apparently forgetting that the 62-win Derrick Rose Bulls existed.
this Lebron dikkrider comparing the old players joining in one team to prime players in one team. what's next Malone, Payton with Kobe and Shaq ? :russ:
 

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How the hell you claim Lebron "disrupted the balance of power" in 2011 by joining Wade/Bosh without noticing that Pierce/Kobe had only been running the previous three years by joining forces with the #1s from other teams (Garnett, Ray, Gasol). Hell, Artest was the #1 on the Rockets team that took LA to 7 in the WCSF the year before he joined them, and Rondo quickly became good enough to be a #1 too. So how was it Lebron disrupting the balance, and not LA/Boston?

And what you saying bout Boston is bullshyt because Lebron beat a 56-win Boston team in 2011 that wasn't even 11 months removed from being up 3-2 in the Finals until Perkins got hurt. Boston did decline, but Rondo's ascendancy partially offset it.

And you completely skipped over the Hamilton/Billups/Pierce/Wallace and prime Kidd/Jefferson/Vince Carter teams that Lebron beat. Not to mention apparently forgetting that the 62-win Derrick Rose Bulls existed.
I see u keep mentioning these names knowing damn well Bron didn't beat any of those guys in their primes. It's the same argument yall use when people bring up Birds Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, or the Lakers Jordan faced in the finals.

And would yall please just stop with the 2012 Boston series as some kind of barometer for James getting over the hump in the east. That Boston team was beyond washed by the time Bron beat them with his super team

LeBron broke through the east ONE TIME BEFORE HE JOINED THAT SUPER TEAM IN MIAMI.

When we refer to LeBron "running" the East we are SPECIFICALLY talking about the last 6 years. He wasn't running shyt b4 that. The east has been a disgrace this whole 6 year run LeBron has been on. He doesn't get credit for not having any competition
 

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How the hell you claim Lebron "disrupted the balance of power" in 2011 by joining Wade/Bosh without noticing that Pierce/Kobe had only been running the previous three years by joining forces with the #1s from other teams (Garnett, Ray, Gasol). Hell, Artest was the #1 on the Rockets team that took LA to 7 in the WCSF the year before he joined them, and Rondo quickly became good enough to be a #1 too. So how was it Lebron disrupting the balance, and not LA/Boston?

And what you saying bout Boston is bullshyt because Lebron beat a 56-win Boston team in 2011 that wasn't even 11 months removed from being up 3-2 in the Finals until Perkins got hurt. Boston did decline, but Rondo's ascendancy partially offset it.

And you completely skipped over the Hamilton/Billups/Pierce/Wallace and prime Kidd/Jefferson/Vince Carter teams that Lebron beat. Not to mention apparently forgetting that the 62-win Derrick Rose Bulls existed.

Look at this smart dumb nikka
Lebron didnt join pierce KD rondo because they were on the decline
he left mimami cause wade bosh were on the decline
 

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@ i AM WARHOL...there was no reason to neg me.....poster don't agree with your opinion so you neg them.You seem to be an overly emotional idividual.
 

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half of the reason that that west was tougher was having OKC and GS being both powerhouses

KD leaving OKC ruined that
 

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I need to understand this

BRON TEAMS HISTORICALLY HAVE TOUGH TIMES
WITH THOSE 2 TEAMS.


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