Dogg Food >>> 36 Chambers

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36 Chambers revolutionized the game. Top 5 album all time.


The way RZA used sampling changed the game.


Name me an album or producer that used that style of sampling before 36 Chambers. And then look at the producers now that it heavily influenced like Kanye, Just Blaze, Alchemist etc.

And please respond in complete sentences. Thanks.

Dre and Cold 187.



I don't think the other guy was saying RZA was the first person to adjust the pitch on a sample, but RZA developed an easily identifiable signature sound and Kanye and Just and them have cited the influence on their production.

Sure he was.
Ok. Here's the whole conversation. Point out where he said RZA was the first producer to adjust pitch on a sample.
 

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36 Chambers changed the game. Dogg Food is just an album. Damn near every song, if not every song, on 36 Chambers is classic. The same cannot be said about Dogg Food.

Dre and Cold 187.

So do you think the album 36 Chambers or that ONE song you put up revolutionized rap? We both know the answer. Let's not nitpick to try to make a point. Just because you find a few songs that uses a sped up sample does not defeat/negate what I'm saying. RZA took the sped up sample, with a dark beat and made it a style.

I don't think the other guy was saying RZA was the first person to adjust the pitch on a sample, but RZA developed an easily identifiable signature sound and Kanye and Just and them have cited the influence on their production.

Exactly. I think the point I was making was pretty obvious, hes just nitpicking to prove a point. Just Blaze, Kanye, Alchemist etc are evidence of 36 Chambers/The RZA's influence.
 

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Now we gonna act like RZA invented sampling :russ:


Face it, the influence isn't there, Dogg Food on the other hand influenced the entire south with it's sound
 

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36 Chambers changed the game. Dogg Food is just an album. Damn near every song, if not every song, on 36 Chambers is classic. The same cannot be said about Dogg Food.



So do you think the album 36 Chambers or that ONE song you put up revolutionized rap? We both know the answer. Let's not nitpick to try to make a point. Just because you find a few songs that uses a sped up sample does not defeat/negate what I'm saying. RZA took the sped up sample, with a dark beat and made it a style.



Exactly. I think the point I was making was pretty obvious, hes just nitpicking to prove a point. Just Blaze, Kanye, Alchemist etc are evidence of 36 Chambers/The RZA's influence.

How do you revolutionize something you didn't even invent?
 

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Don't get me wrong here, I loved 36 Chambers when it came out and still love it today. Lettuce be reality here though, it didn't revolutionize a damn thing. It was a fresh, new sound, but have you forgot about the similar sounding emcees and production of the time?
 

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Don't get me wrong here, I loved 36 Chambers when it came out and still love it today. Lettuce be reality here though, it didn't revolutionize a damn thing. It was a fresh, new sound, but have you forgot about the similar sounding emcees and production of the time?

It was a fresh new sound that was similar to other emcees and production of the time? Huh? You contradicted yourself in one sentence
 
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