doggystyle is better than illmatic

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Does anyone account that Illmatic was heavily bootlegged in NYC? Which also was the main place for the sales to come from for that album when talking about sales?

It's a reason it took so long to go plat or why stores couldn't "give that shyt away." nikkas that should have been supporting all year 1 had it already and at large. You know the lyrics :huhldup:

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Keep it real kid. It took Illmatic about ten years to go platinum. Don’t blame that on “New York already had the bootleg” bullshyt. I love that album but cmon god! Word up money.
 

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Doggystyle was rushed and most of the best tracks recorded for the album ain't even on the retail release

the og doggystyle would have been a 6 mic super classic

illmatic is better than the retail doggystyle easy






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Notice the theme.
To be considered a top album outside the east, you have to do big numbers.
To be a "classic" from the east, you can do poorly, just as long as the east coast bias media gets behind you to help paint a fictitious picture of what your album means.

You will never see an album from outside the east, from the mid nineties, that gets classic credits UNLESS it killed it at retail. But them east coasters have a rubber stamp at classic status.


nothin but facts

and i love those albums the East Coast media props up


but we ain't gonna act like other regions didn't have shyt just as good, or better, dropping back then :ufdup:
 

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:stopitslime:

Keep it real kid. It took Illmatic about ten years to go platinum. Don’t blame that on “New York already had the bootleg” bullshyt. I love that album but cmon god! Word up money.

There's no way to know how long it took to go plat, RIAA only starts the audit when the label pays for it.

They don't track it in real time. They never did.

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I used to love Doggystyle when I was young, now I can't listen to it anymore. except maybe "ain't no fun" from time to time.

Illmatic wins easily. I never get tired of it.
 

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You can't compare both. This was an era where you had to be super original and this is A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT ERA! It shouldn't be compared, that's why they're BOTH CLASSICS, cuz they didn't sound like anything that was out especially DOGGYSTYLE! Now if you want to compare albums of today, which most of em sound the same anyway, then yeah you'd have a point :mjlol:

But this is why the 90s was CRANKING OUT CLASSIC like every month, everyone HAD TO BE ORIGINAL! (yes i know there was wack sh*t in the 90s as well :comeon:) but regardless, these 2 masterpieces are prime examples of them being uncomparable!
 
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If you were alive and listening to Hip Hop back in 93-94’, you know Snoop had the game on lock. The radio played every new single from Doggystyle every hour. Nobody outside of NY actually listened to Nas. It was weird because Nas was on the cover of magazines , getting five mics in the Source and shyt, but literally no one was actually checking for his music. This was the era where you actually had to physically go to the record store and cop a tape or CD. Snoop’s sales should have been lower because so many kids, like myself, back then just recorded all the songs off the radio because our parents refused to cop the albums with parental advisory stickers. We were ten fukking years old for God’s sake. People blame “bootleggers” for Illmatic flopping but that only explains the street fan base in NYC.:snoop: Nas had the whole industry pushing for him, had the best NY producers of the era on his album and still went wood. Snoop was mainstream, but still gangsta and dropping classic after classic. The Cali sound ruled the 90’s. Biggie was much more of a households name than Nas because “Big Poppa” and “Juicy” were essentially G-Funk tracks with West Coast subject matter (i.e. Bay Area player vibes on “Big Poppa”). Even Puff said he was trying to make a NY version of the Chronic on Ready to Die.

Sonically, Doggystyle is party music. Illmatic is dusty broke Ny nikka in the projects in the dead of winter music. Not saying that is bad. But damn near literally everything released in Rap music from 88-96’ was classic. The ability for Snoop to make gangsta music that you could party to made it more classic in my opinion. :sas1:
 

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:stopitslime:

Keep it real kid. It took Illmatic about ten years to go platinum. Don’t blame that on “New York already had the bootleg” bullshyt. I love that album but cmon god! Word up money.
I'm just going off the stories of garages filled with thousands of copies of the album and part of the reason it's only 9 songs, but go off. :yeshrug:
 

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I mean, when illmatic dropped the Source said it was as anticipated on the east coast as doggy style was for the rest of the country. The two are comparable

Personally I think Life's a bytch>any song on snoop album, but snoops album got played so much on TV I got tired of hearing it. It's a toss up, could go either way
 
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