Doing a song with Justin Bieber as much of a sell out as Starships

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It's 2012....nobody is faulting her for trying to sell out. We're faulting her for desperately trying to sell out, and failing in the process.

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I'm not knocking what she's doing, but she can't have it both ways. If she's always made that type of music then fine. She say's she's about getting money.. well, get your money but you can't expect people not to critique.

Doing a song with Bieber is actually worse. DJ Premier was the only one with some sense not to let this gump infiltrate the culture.
 

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shyt was wack but it's not the same as Starships anyway. that shyt with Justin Bieber is basically Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthin Ta fukk Wit but with Bieber singing on it, it's practically a mash up. Starships is complete switch to pop, so much that people wouldn't even know it was Nicki Minaj if they weren't told or if they didn't see the video. there is NOTHING Hip Hop about it at all, and that's fine as long as you don't turn around & claim that it is.
 

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People that mention the Bieber collabo as Rae "selling out" like to forget that he dropped this around the time "OB4CL2" came out, plus 2-3 mixtapes, all of which had zero cross over appeal.

So, who did he cross over to, and with what songs? People seriously think Bieber fans ran out and copped Rae's discography after hearing that song? :aicmon:

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People that mention the Bieber collabo as Rae "selling out" like to forget that he dropped this around the time "OB4CL2" came out, plus 2-3 mixtapes, all of which had zero cross over appeal.

So, who did he cross over to, and with what songs? People seriously think Bieber fans ran out and copped Rae's discography after hearing that song? :aicmon:

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naw but that was some cornball shyt. and i'm very confident he did it hoping it would help him. Picture some young white dweeb asking to collab with him.
 

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naw but that was some cornball shyt. and i'm very confident he did it hoping it would help him. Picture some young white dweeb asking to collab with him.
:beli: I'm sure Raekwon called up Bieber on some "I'm not eating **** help me out youngin". What do you sound like right now?
 

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naw but that was some cornball shyt. and i'm very confident he did it hoping it would help him. Picture some young white dweeb asking to collab with him.
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nah, this was worse.
 

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what cant an artist go pop and still do hiphop why does it only have to be one way or the other, if nicki drops the most hiphop song today ppl will still hate cuz she did starships
 

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what cant an artist go pop and still do hiphop why does it only have to be one way or the other, if nicki drops the most hiphop song today ppl will still hate cuz she did starships

you basically lose some integrity. According to you, a country artist can make a rap album. An alternative rock band can make an opera record. Nicki is made starships for the sole purpose of getting money. Thats where the sell out part comes into play because starships and songs like starships is what gets her doing cameo's with Madona and exands her fan base to 13 year old white chicks. You end up alienating one fan base to cater to another and in the end you will eventually lose both.
 
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