Dollface's thread is proof that most black atheist/agnostics are wimps

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America hates atheists more than Muslims. That should tell you something. I'm not going to bring up my lack of belief in a god to a cac I rely on for an income

shyt, they had one study that said atheist are as distrusted as rapist.
 
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Re read the original post. The point is not to change people's minds, debate or make people feel like they are wrong. Never did I mentioned any of that in the OP.

The point is to stop hiding and start being open and honest about your way of thinking.

And that will only lead to pointless debates, right?


edit: I can say this, op. If I'm surrounded by Christians, I will adapt to the situation. I'm never going to claim to be one way or another in public, I thinks it's silly to do so. Those ideas should remain private, imo.
 
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I noticed that at least one poster said he had to lie or black women wouldn't fukk with him.
That's a pretty big something to lie about in a relationship imho.

:yeshrug:

I'm still wondering why someone who thinks religon/organized religon is stupid wants to pursue someone who apparently has these beliefs?

Breh the thing is sooooooooo many sistas are on that "spiritual" shyt that you either have to straight up lie or talk around the subject.

I'm not into religion AT ALL and I'm sure my last relationship partly fell apart because of it. My old chick would ask why I'm not down and when I'd give her some legit reasons she wouldn't accept it. It's like she wanted the lie answer just as long as it's what she wanted to hear. She told me she wanted to raise her kids in the church and all that and I was like "what's wrong with just being a decent person?" Why does a motherfukker automatically turn into a degenerate if they're not willing to suck white Jesus' balls?

And she was an educated sista. It blows my mind that soooo many of our "learn-ed" brother and sistas can know a decent chunk of our history in this country and STILL be on that blind faith in "God" shyt.

Meh

I guess I'm destined to either live a lonely life, fukking thots or PAWGING because I'd be damned if I get strong armed into sitting in church every damn week when I know I just wanna enjoy my Sunday.
 

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No. I'm going to have to partially agree with the OPs point. Atheism/Agnosticism is unpopular in the US and in the Black community. A lot of these athiests feel like they have to blend in with Christians/Jews/Muslims otherwise they are always having to defend their beliefs. Further more Black women are in general very religous, and do not approve of Black men who are not at least spiritual. The problem is that there just isn't enough of a support system in real life for these non-Believers to congregate to and most find it here, in places the Coli and similar sites.
 
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That thread is cringe worthy. The number one reason black atheists gave for her never meeting a black non believer is that most non believers are quiet about it and afraid to step on people's toes by divulging there non belief or skepticism of belief. You have people in that thread literally claiming that they are only willing to talk about atheism on the internet where they are anonymous and safe. You have a bunch of people who are completely convicted in being atheist/agnostic, thinks it benefits their lives, but go out of their way to keep their way of thought a secret from their own inner circles of people they care about who could benefit from the knowledge, experience, and open dialog. That's some weak shyt!

I'm speaking as a agnostic. Black freethinkers we need to stop being afraid. Stop being in the closet. The more of us that are open about this IN REAL LIFE, the more we can start having open dialog within black culture, and remove a lot of the barriers to free thought and open possibilities.

I'm not saying everyone should do lame shyt like become an social media activist and post demeaning memes making fun of religion on Facebook. I'm saying we should not be afraid to be honest as long as we do it in a way that's respectful.
I don't hide. If they ask me I'll tell them.
 

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America hates atheists more than Muslims. That should tell you something. I'm not going to bring up my lack of belief in a god to a cac I rely on for an income

My aunt and I had a long conversation one day where I alluded to non-belief, and she deaded anything I had to say from that point on the subject. She believes its evil not
to believe:ld:and she ain't the only one. Religious folks will go the fukk IN on us.

:dafuqisthis:

I ain't afraid of no bible thumpers, breh! I'm agnostic as well and the reason I keep my shyt to myself is because when they ask and I tell them they start to preach, challenge or spout some other shyt I don't want to hear. On top of looking at you like you some demon. "The devil making you talk like this..." :martin:

Coming from a Christian family I got sick of that back and forth a long time ago.

You guys realize that the more of us that are open and honest about our way of thinking the more accepting and tolerant people will end up right? A lot black people assume that atheists and agnostics are evil or crazy contrarian unicorns because they don't meet enough to disprove their assumptions. Keep hiding and being afraid to talk about your beliefs and this will never change.
 
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You guys realize that the more of us that are open and honest about our way of thinking the more accepting and tolerant people will end up right? A lot black people assume that atheists and agnostics are evil or crazy contrarian unicorns because they don't meet enough to disprove their assumptions. Keep hiding and being afraid to talk about your beliefs and this will never change.
Yeah look at how the gays did it. We can learn a lot from fakkits
 

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I wouldn't say they're wimps or anything like that, I'd say it is mainly because of 2 reasons......

1. Pick your battles. Discussing religion or politics often turns into a shytstorm which leads me to....
2. Religious folk are often very irrational. The discussion will go nowhere. They really don't even have their own beliefs but rather archaic beliefs and doctrines long passed down and force fed to people from generation to generation. You are not talking to a person but rather a corpse. There's no reasoning, you cannot start fire with a dead log and you'd only waste your time.

Now if someone questions you about your views, by all means state your case and don't back down, but I'm saying to up and just bring the topic up outta nowhere, especially with religious black folk, be ready for an argument and nothing more.
 

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That thread is cringe worthy. The number one reason black atheists gave for her never meeting a black non believer is that most non believers are quiet about it and afraid to step on people's toes by divulging there non belief or skepticism of belief. You have people in that thread literally claiming that they are only willing to talk about atheism on the internet where they are anonymous and safe
I said I don't talk about it except with personal contacts, online, or if probed by someone. I feel the same way about politics in genera

I still stand by that. If anything my criticism of most modern atheist is the aggressive proselytizing done by a lot. "ALLL BELIEVERS ARE IGNORANT DUMBASSES WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE" bullshyt wins no one to your side and that in itself is cringeworthy. I don't do that myself personally. I'm usually respectful of people who are religious and when I rarely discuss it, I usually use proper tact.

As far as the black women thing and dating, my girlfriend and I hold the same beliefs :yeshrug:so that is not an issue for me..

The only time I outright lied is when there is less harm in doing so lol. I remember reading someone saying they got in an argument with a janitor based on a small question from the janitor if they go to church. If a fukking janitor asks me that in passing I'll go "sure...":troll: and keep it moving. I'm not getting in religious debate with random wackos out on the streets breh :mjlol:
 

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You guys realize that the more of us that are open and honest about our way of thinking the more accepting and tolerant people will end up right? A lot black people assume that atheists and agnostics are evil or crazy contrarian unicorns because they don't meet enough to disprove their assumptions. Keep hiding and being afraid to talk about your beliefs and this will never change.
I never said I was afraid, but I put religious talk in the same box as sexuality, family history, etc. shyt that is NONE of my business, and in return, none of anyone elses business.
If the topic is broached im game, but some people really put a lot of stock in trying to disprove another persons POV. I have two friends I stopped talking to on account of their religious beliefs.
They always wanted to talk about it,but instead of it being a discussion, it would devolve into an argument because my lack of belief was seen as an affront to theirs.

If we can get along without talking about personal beliefs, i'm cool with that.
 

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I don't believe ....so I have no reason to bring the shyt up. I'm not one of those annoying atheists throwing it in ppl faces. If some one asks me I tell them though. It's damaged some relationships but fuq people's ignorance
 

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I rarely ever have a reason to bring it up. Religion doesn't often come up in casual conversation, and I'd never waste my breathe trying to convert someone. I might have the occasional discussion with a friend about it, but besides that, I rarely get the opportunity to talk about religion.
 
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